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Remember, children, you voted this man in. Judging by his behaviour over the last few days I think you might regret it.

members.parliament.uk/member/4โ€ฆ
#politics #anarchy

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BBC Weather this morning.

"There is a severe weather warning in place until Saturday"

That'll be just for today, then, won't it? ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ



๐—ฆ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฎ: "What are we going to do? The prisons are bursting with criminals!"
๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ: "We need a quick fix that makes it look like we are 'doing something'
๐—ฆ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฎ: "Tax the rich?"
๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ: "Not yet, we're saving that for when we're really in the shit."
๐—ฆ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฎ: "Build some prisons? We've got plenty of workers flocking across the English channel now."
๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ: "I've got a better idea. Release prisoners early because they can't be that bad, can they? Plus, we can tell everyone how clever we are in reducing overcrowding within the first few days of taking over."
#politics #Labour
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in reply to Steve

That's what opposition is, you silly boy, find fault. You've had your turn for the last fourteen years. Now, it's your time to defend the indefensible. ๐Ÿคฃ
in reply to dick_turpin

Hey, I'm interested to see how they can be better. Can't be much worse for sure. Of course you are a Tory, but I'm not a dedicated Labour guy. I just want what's best for the country, not pointless sniping (e.g. criticising what they wear) :)


If this is true, it's the worst possible outcome for Labour. It will mean even less affordable accommodation if we accept that renting is cheaper than buying a house. These properties will be bought for home ownership, not for renting.

order-order.com/2024/07/09/lanโ€ฆ

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Renting from the private sector hasnโ€™t been the more affordable option for a number of years now. Perhaps if you take into total cost of ownership (not having to do repairs, replace windows etc), but not in day to day terms.
in reply to Jamie

It still takes that option off the table. I did a very brief search earlier because another thought crossed my mind. Apparently, the least viable lease you can sell on a property is 40 years in terms of what banks will lend mortgages against. So, I wonder if any Landlords will consider selling leases as an immediate cash injection to use on other projects while (hopefully, if they survive) having a retirement asset to sell off once the lease reverts back to them.

I await the "Equity Release For Landlords" scheme. ๐Ÿคฃ



I bet France is glad it doesn't have Proportional Representation?
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51y4zโ€ฆ


Visit the countryside while it's still there! "Mummy, what's a meadow?"
news.sky.com/story/new-chancelโ€ฆ
in reply to Stephen Michael Kellat

At least you won't be bankrupt like we will in about three years.

Do you think you'll get Trump for a second term? Americans can't possibly elect that senile old fool Biden?

in reply to dick_turpin

I'm not sure it'll matter at this point. Both sides are starting to sound like they're the IRA and Sinn Fein gearing up for a long conflict akin to The Troubles. That would tear us apart in fairly short order if the Capitol Insurrection was any indication.

It is too early in the day to be so maudlin. I can't deny it is looking pretty bad. On the bright side there is still plenty of countryside for all to visit here in the Americas...



When Rishi Sunak sets out his stall as the opposition, it will be backed by a group of people he barely knows now that nearly all the well-known names are out of a job.
#politics #GE2024

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"๐—ค๐˜‚๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐—น๐—ถ๐˜‚๐˜€ ๐—ฉ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜‚๐˜€, ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐˜† ๐—˜๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—น๐—ฒ๐˜€!"

Poor Margaret must be spinning in her grave. ๐Ÿ˜ข
leftfootforward.org/2024/07/maโ€ฆ
#politics #GE2024

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in reply to dick_turpin

Former seats of Cameron, Johnson and May plus current of Truss all flipped. Where is the Tory heartland now?


My former MP Eddie Hughes, who buggered off to what I presume he thought was a safe seat in Tamworth, is out of a job.
birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlโ€ฆ

Maybe if he had stayed with the Constituency, he might have won because he was well-liked in the town.
#politics #GE2024

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in reply to dick_turpin

Did we ever see the report about Russian interference with the Tories?


And so, as everyone knew, the Conservatives are barely represented in UK society today, having suffered the worst defeat in British political history. While there will be lots of jubilation for those who voted Labour, I can't help feeling that the biggest factor in their victory was that the Tories handed it to them on a plate, not only with their behaviour but also the arrogance of their belief in the former majority they held and that it wasn't won through any groundbreaking manifesto promises. In my opinion, a large proportion voted Labour to "Get the Tories out". To coin a phrase: "How the mighty have fallen." But as has been pointed out, that's democracy for you, and it proves that "Votes" do count.

Obviously, as a lifelong Tory voter myself, I'm not convinced that Labour is the answer or can address the problems facing us today, but they now have five years and an unbeatable majority to prove myself and my fellow Conservative voters wrong. From my point of view, all I can hope for now is for the Party to overhaul itself and look for By-Election opportunities to start clawing seats back.

Well done, Labour, the people have spoken.
#politics #GE2024

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in reply to dick_turpin

so it turned out even Brexit couldn't heal there internal divisions.

It's just a shame they could not put the country first, rather than their internal problems.

It will be interesting to see when Sunak steps down.

in reply to Chris Ellis

I get the feeling he would love to be the party leader who brought them back from the abyss.

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76 people have now taken my UK General Election Quizโ€ฆbut the average score is down to 3/10. Boo!

Can you do better? Help boost the score average and have some fun while waiting for the results to come in!

#UKElection
#Quiz
#GTTO
#ToryDeathParty

jetpunk.com/user-quizzes/20182โ€ฆ

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in reply to Juggling With Eggs

Hmm? 4 out of 10, but the timer didn't help. I don't blame you; it stops people from Googling the answer. Nice job. ๐Ÿ‘
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@dick_turpin

Itโ€™s always the way with Jet Punk quizzesโ€ฆitโ€™s quick fire, either you know it or guess!

in reply to Steve

@steevc

Vote share seems to be the thing that confused everyoneโ€ฆbeing a politics nerd itโ€™s what Iโ€™m interested to see about todayโ€™s election. People are saying Starmer could win a landslide on a vote share that is comparable or less than what Corbyn got at last election.

in reply to Juggling With Eggs

Vote share and seats can be very different. It's the system we're stuck with and Labour probably won't change it.
in reply to Steve

TBH, I should have got 5; I panicked when I saw 25 seconds. It'd be no good giving me the nuke keys and expecting me to make a split-second decision. ๐Ÿคฃ
in reply to Steve

I saw "Thatcher" and thought it was the answer to every bleedin(g) question! ๐Ÿคฃ
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@dick_turpin @steevc

I find I get like thatโ€ฆitโ€™s even harder with the quizzes that are not multiple choice and you have to type the answer at speed on a phone!



I wonder if, at some stage tomorrow, Rishi will start sending out Tweets telling supporters to 'show up' at Westminster to protest the stolen election? ๐Ÿ˜‰


Loving all these people posting photos of their ballot papers.
https://x.com/alexharmstrong/status/1808828289382752721

Interestingly, I've not seen any Labour or Conservative ones?
#politics #GE2024 #vote

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in reply to Steve

I've seen a good few. Liberal, ReformUK and a Green party.
in reply to dick_turpin

I don't think you can map that to results. Reform knobs like to boast :)


So caught up in today's UK elections forgot to wish our American cousins:
"HAPPY TREASON DAY."

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200+ Seats would be awesome. 100 seats would be catastrophic. Then again, I remember the last time everyone thought the Tories would lose, and they were returned with an even bigger majority.
#politics #GE2024 #vote #KeepTheFaith

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It's so depressing seeing people posting with glee at the Conservative's potential demise when they themselves have never lived under a Labour government or are too young to remember the last one. You have no idea.
#politics #GE2024 #vote

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in reply to dick_turpin

@wiredfire

I agree the Iraq war was a warcrime.

Regarding the tories:
We've also had Liz Truss losing 30bn quid in one week because she was criminally reckless and stupid, we had billions of public money stolen by the tories through the PPE and TrackandTrace scandals.
Brexit was driven by the tory right, and the the tory press lied on their behalf.
Thatcher privatised the water industry, which has led inevitably to our rivers and sea being full of shit.

in reply to Captain Jack Sparrow

I agree, Truss was not only a massive mistake but a huge disappointment given she was billed as the reincarnation of my hero Maggie.

With regard to PPE, Furlough, and, let's not forget, the Nightingale hospitals at ยฃ60M a pop, it depends on your perspective. While I was stunned at how the government literally handed over cash without any checks or balances, one could argue it was the right thing to do at the time, given everyone was shit scared of dying. Personally, I'd far rather they threw money away rather than clamp down on bureaucracy. What should have happened was for the Royal Commission to look into ALL payments made by the government at that time, with powers to recover funds where appropriate.

I agree with Margaret Thatcher. It is not the government's role to run businesses and provide employment. Where it all falls down is the likes of OFWAT, either not having enough power or not really doing their job properly and sanctioning the arse off, in this case, the water companies.

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๐—™๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—บ ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ผ ๐˜€๐˜‚๐—ป
It is the epitaph of the Conservatives, I suspect.
#politics GE2024 #vote

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ROTFLMAO

Apparently, the Liberals think this is a good video to promote their suitability to govern.
https://x.com/i/status/1808199262133535175
I thought the Monster Loony Raving Party was a spent force?
#politics #GE2024 #vote

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๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐—ท๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜ ๐—ด๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐˜†๐—ผ๐˜‚ ๐—ฑ๐—ผ๐˜„๐—ป.

Wanna know why I'm a moaning caaant? This is why.

A guy has a 2011 PC running W7, but Office won't activate on it. He sends us a second PC he's found and asks us to transfer everything over. The only trouble is that it's that old story: "If it's slung up the back of a cupboard, there's a reason." It's a 2009 PC!

I offer him an i5, 32GB 256 M.2 plus M365; he tries to tell me they have a bunch of M365 licenses and "Can't we use one of those?" after telling him to basically fook off, he then says, "Well, you can have it here in a bit can't you?" I have to explain that; basically, he's wasted the morning, and now our guys are starting lunches, and if he's lucky, he'll have it this afternoon.

Why do people take three weeks to decide and then think they can have it within the hour?

#RantOver

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So here's the dilemma: The Conservatives, whom I have voted for since the age of 18, will lose. I accept that. Normally, I would berate anyone for "Voting tactically," but I'm worried that the Tories will be absolutely slaughtered at the Polls tomorrow, and apparently, voting for someone who will lose is a wasted vote. We need a strong opposition, not some mishmash of Heinz 57 parties. With that in mind, I'm tempted to vote for Reform. ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ
#politics #GE2024 #vote
in reply to penguin42

To paraphrase Farage. I'm not interested in winning; that's a foregone conclusion. I'm more concerned about who will be the opposition and how strong that opposition will be. It's no good for the Tories to be in opposition if they only have 80 seats.


There are 650 Constituencies (Seats) in the UK. Your constituency can only send one MP to Parliament, so if your preferred candidate wins, they will take one seat in the house. Don't listen to this bullshit of "A vote for X is, in fact, a vote for Y." vote for who you believe in!
#politics #GE2024 #vote

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if your preferred candidate doesn't win you get no representation of your views.

If there is someone with a realistic chance of winning who partially represents your views and you vote for them you may at least get some representation.

And of course if everybody does that the parties that are least worst get in.

Where it falls down even more is it the least worst option crosses some red lines. Then you either vote for something you don't agree with, vote for someone who you know won't get in or stay home.

I can't really blame people for staying home. If a party wants people to vote, then convince them. "Voter apathy" is really blaming the wrong people.

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in reply to Jfrench

I don't believe in proportional representation; I think that only increases the chance of someone "Getting in" who one didn't vote for. I think it's a problem that's getting worse in everyday life, tbh. There is far too much choice. You should see my arguments around my local fish & chip shop.

"Is that a special?"
"WTF is a special? I just want fish-n-chips."
๐Ÿคฃ



44 hours remaining until the polls open at 7:00 AM on July 4, 2024
#Politics #GE2024 #Vote

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So if anyone fancies invading a British dependency, sometime after 18:05 would do nicely and if you could have your invasion completed by 09:00 the following day, that would be awfully helpful.
#politics #GE2024 #Vote


It's not all quail eggs and salmon for breakfast.
I wonder if he's humming:

โ™ซ โ™ช "I wanna live like common people
I wanna do whatever common people do
Wanna sleep with common people
I wanna sleep with common people like you."
Well,โ€‹ what else could I do?
I said "I'll... I'll see what I can do" โ™ฌ โ™ฉ

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๐—ง๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜€ ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐—ฝ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—Ÿ๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐—น๐—น
standard.co.uk/news/politics/gโ€ฆ
#politics #GE2024 #vote

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in reply to dick_turpin

Is there a difference between a landslide and an avalanche?


Before people start throwing their toys out of their pram, both the Tories and Labour have been guilty of racism! Labour still has a problem with antisemitism, and the Conservatives have had to deal with Islamaphobia.

If there is such a thing as "Tactical voting", that must mean your votes count!
Remember, you might be stuck with someone for five years, or less, and then you can vote in someone else once the dust has settled.
#politics #Thursday #vote

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Rishi Sunak dashes out to Germany, hoping to learn how to win at the last minute!
"It's never over til the fat lady sings!"


"Keir Starmer seems nice enough; the trouble is, you just know somewhere in the Midlands, ASDA is missing a store manager," ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
-- Jimmy Carr
#politics

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๐—ฆ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐˜„๐—ฒ ๐—ด๐—ผ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐— ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—น๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐—ธ?
ecency.com/holiday/@dickturpinโ€ฆ
#hive
#Hive

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I placed an order yesterday with @huel for three items, and they've still not been dispatched. Their AI assistant is useless! I'm unsure how I can rephrase "Where's my goods!" and ask to speak to a human; that's a joke; it's simply a message for someone who will email me. That's not speaking to a human. I'm a bit techy because the order should be delivered to my office and we don't work weekends.

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And people were chalking up yet another vice of the Tories:
โ™ซ โ™ช "And it's all gone quiet over, all gone quiet over there...." โ™ฌ โ™ฉ
news.sky.com/story/labour-candโ€ฆ
#politics #electiongambling

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Here's an idea.

You don't like Farage's idea of net zero migration?

Disgusted at Sunak's Rwanda idea?

Wondering why you've worked hard to get ahead only to be taxed because you apparently have broader shoulders?

๐—ฆ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ฝ
Everyone who feels, quote: "Let 'em all in." can pay a fee per week or month (Depending on how you're paid) and pick an immigrant to sponsor, a bit like those "Adopt a Giraffe" schemes. That way, nobody is unfairly taxed, and nobody can complain. ๐Ÿƒ ๐Ÿ˜‰

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No, according to some people, they're all filthy rich, so they'll all be off to much warmer climbs while we all feel the heat of a different kind.


The only celebrity I see pointing out Labour's inability to govern is Jeremy Clarkson.


Who would make the better Prime Minister is the wrong question. Who you would want as Prime Minister is more how things are going these days.
#Politics


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So I bought some #Huel greens (ยฃ50). I'm not sure what to make of it, tbh. It seems to have a slight metallic after taste. For my palate, maybe I need a bit more than a flat scoop, as it tastes watery. Finally, I'm wondering if you're supposed to drink the whole lot in one go. I thought you sipped at it? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

I'll carry on, though. I need to, I've got fifty quids worth.๐Ÿคฃ

#huel


๐—ž๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐˜†๐˜€ ๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ถ๐—น๐—น ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐˜† ๐—ฏ๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜€.
So, will he be forcing people who sell their homes to accept the first offer made by a prospective buyer? What about car auctions? Must they accept the first offer?

How on earth will this work? Will he set rental tariffs on all properties? That's a lot of work. Who is going to manage that, and where will the money come from to run it? Will Landlords feel it's a worthwhile market to stay in, or will they sell all their properties? In this case, how does that help the housing shortage when there are even more properties on the market that only a few can afford to buy?

Maybe some Housing Ombudsman who you can moan to? But how long will it take to resolve your case while you're waiting on the streets?

Even Kier Starmer himself couldn't answer that question last night because not only is it a stupid, unworkable fop to the voter. Yet again, it's Labour looking to take from someone who has something. It's all Labour knows! You spend your money, time, and effort buying a small property portfolio, probably as an investment for your retirement, and along comes Labour: "๐˜–๐˜ฐ๐˜ฉ! ๐˜ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ'๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฐ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ญ! ๐˜ž๐˜ฆ'๐˜ญ๐˜ญ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜จ๐˜ช๐˜ท๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜บ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ถ๐˜ด ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฌ ๐˜จ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฅ."

thesun.co.uk/money/28621666/laโ€ฆ



Every time the Tories stagger back into the ring, there's yet another smack in the mouth!
#politics #ToryScandal
telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/โ€ฆ

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Remember children. While you were busy making as many posts as possible to "Get the Tories out", you let Farage in!

Don't forget to thank all those who relentlessly slagged the Conservatives off across all the Social Media platforms, including biased journalists, on the 4th of July. You deserve all you get.
#politics #ShortSighted #PoliticalIgnorance

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in reply to dick_turpin

That's probably an exaggeration. It's Labour which will be let in. Reform might make their presence felt but they won't be the leading player.
in reply to Neil Darlow :gotosocial: :silverblue: :xmpp:

I'm convinced (For the minute) ReformUK will be the opposition. That's still "In" in my book.

What needs to be taken into consideration is that parties like the Greens are picking up [tactical] votes. I'm really worried the Tories could be fourth or worse. Some might naively think that's good, but it will be terrible for the UK, in my opinion. This country needs an experienced, established opposition.

in reply to Andy C

@andyc @neil I'd expect the Tories will still be second unless it goes even worse than predicted. Reform might get 3 seats. FPTP means that share of the vote has little impact if it's spread across the country..

Ah well, in 2 weeks we shall find out.

in reply to Andy C

It looks like they will at the minute. Obviously, we've had shocks on polling day before. Just look what happened when Corbyn forced a vote of no confidence, but I have this feeling the "Change" everyone has clamoured for for the past forty-plus years we might actually get.
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in reply to dick_turpin

@neil Sorry - what's your source for this prediction ? If you honestly believe that, get down the bookies now and get ยฃ100 on it.

You understand how FPTP works, right ? 14% in the polls is meaningless in terms of seats.

'In its first MRP model of the 2024 general election, Ipsos estimated Labour could win 453 seats and the Conservatives 115, giving Keir Starmerโ€™s party a majority of 256 and inflicting the Toriesโ€™ worst ever defeat'.

theguardian.com/politics/articโ€ฆ

in reply to dick_turpin

You shouldn't underestimate the LibDems. Action Man will be picking-up votes across the board just because of negativity to everyone else.
in reply to Neil Darlow :gotosocial: :silverblue: :xmpp:

@neil Ed Davey has run a very odd campaign. Has he completely lost it or just desperately hoping to show 'he's down with the kids' ? Bloody weird. Hard to take him seriously. Plus he was partially culpable for the PO scandal. And yet bizarrely he seems quite proud of his antics.
in reply to Andy C

Doesn't he remind you of someone else when they were running for London Mayor?


in reply to dick_turpin

Even if the tories come third in vote share, theyโ€™ll still not be third in seats. If we had proportional representation, itโ€™d be a different story.

Agree on the need for a solid opposition, and I do worry slightly about what will be left in terms of quality on the opposition bench in the next parliament.

@neil

in reply to Jamie

Exactly!
The attached image is a bit out of date (Labour 406 seats). I saw a projection yesterday that Labour would gain 526 seats. My own view is the Greens are pathetic, LidDem are useless, SNP (Who?) NI, Plaid and the rest of the Heinz 57 lot will never be able to form a viable safety net. Having said that, who knows what will happen on polling day? We've seen the pollsters get it massively wrong before.
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