"Better the devil, you know.........."
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Israel said to ask US to deter Iran from retaliating for Nasrallah assassination | The Times of Israel
Pentagon chief assures Gallant the US supports Israel’s right to self defense, 'remains postured to defend its forces in the region,' as Tehran vows revenge for Beirut strikeAgencies (The Times of Israel)
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MP Rosie Duffield says Labour supporters are being ‘taken for granted’
Ms Duffield told the BBC the party was ‘in my heart and in my soul’, but she has lost her ‘faith’ in the leadership.John Besley (The Independent)
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#politics #PrisonOvercrowding
Dozens let out of prison under emergency release scheme were freed by mistake
About 1,700 prisoners were released from jails across England and Wales on 10 September in a bid to cut overcrowding.Sky News
The world stood by and did nothing while Israel tore across Gaza, destroying and killing everything in its path, determined to wipe out all and any Palestinians, but now that the centre of Israel had been hit in retaliation. World leaders are like: "Ooh? This might be getting out of hand?"
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#politics #gaza
Netanyahu under pressure as US and UK call for 21-day ceasefire on Lebanon-Israel border
Senior US officials hope deal can be implemented ‘in the coming hours’Mark Wilkinson (Evening Standard)
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Given the amount of children we have seen starved to death by their so-called parents I'm willing to pay for any child to get at least one meal a day out of my taxes regardless of how much their parents earn.
Rachel Reeves announces free school breakfast clubs from April as she doubles down on winter fuel cuts
Labour chancellor was heckled about the sale of arms to Israel as she made her speech to her party’s annual conference in LiverpoolKate Devlin (The Independent)
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Interestingly, I've been saying for years that schools should provide at least one hot meal a day for free for all pupils. I'm fairly confident those parents who can afford to contribute would even if it was to pay for another child's meal.
For me, it's not about providing a "Freebie" it's about ensuring there's not another bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birm…
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We looked at this in a local primary school I was a governor of a few years ago. We tried to find funding for a lunch for all pupils. The evidence was that attainment and health was improved by doing this. However we could not get it done.
The issue was not around cost as it actually would not have been too costly. However we had issues finding a specific budget pot that could be used to fund it.
The sensible idea would be to have a "Meal Club" account. The only issue I see with that is if the account accrues too much money, some councillor or MP will try to get their grubby hands on it rather than letting the school fund a Christmas dinner or something extra.
The only other thought I had was there would be scum out there that would stop feeding their kids: "You had something at Breakfast Club, didn't you?"
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Winter fuel vote live: Cut to winter fuel payment set to go ahead after government wins Commons vote
An opposition motion is defeated by 348 to 228 votes, meaning bill help for pensioners will be means tested.BBC News
Are they a deterrent? Punishment? Protecting Society? Rehabilitation? I'm wondering what releasing prisoners early tells offenders? "We were just kidding when we gave you your sentence. You do know you only have to serve a bit of it, don't you?"
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Prisons start releasing offenders early in effort to ease overcrowding
More than 1,700 prisoners are being let out early today as part of a government scheme to deal with overcrowding.BBC News
So, how long of a given sentence do you think someone should serve? A day? A week? A month? What is the point of giving someone twelve months custodial if they know there's a chance they could be released within two or three months? And given how tariffs work, they could be out within a month once "Time served on remand" has been taken into account.
I blame ALL governments for not investing in 'capacity' within the UK, including the NHS and education. The population has exploded since the '60s to 80 Million, and we're still stumbling along with a capacity of 53 Million; there are only so many eggs you can squeeze in a box before they start cracking.
Length of sentence depends on circumstances of course, and then on behavior inside.
I get the impression that sentence-inflation is much of the cause of the overcrowding. Keep making sentences longer without building more capacity with no indication that doing so has any good effect on actual crime levels.
Not investing in the country and all the austerity since the banking crisis in 2008 does seem to have broken just about everything.
While I can fully understand the parents' pain and distress caused by questioning Lucy Letby's conviction, I would have hoped they would want the truth and not what appears to be, on the face of it, a very thin case. I'm unsure if an accusation of "Well, according to the rotas, you were always on duty when incidents happened!" is proof of guilt. Now, eminent professors are starting to question the medical evidence.
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Lucy Letby: Doubts over conviction as families seek answers ahead of inquiry
Ahead of a public inquiry kicking off today, there is a call for its scope to be widened - as some raise questions about Lucy Letby's conviction. For the family of the victims, there has never been any flicker of remorse or motive suggested.Greg Milam (Sky News)
People say strange things about themselves in dark moments of personal crisis.
Here's a simple question: Have you ever rubber-necked a crash on the motorway? Have you ever been disappointed that the collision wasn't horrific and just looked like a bad shunt? Does that mean you are a killer? I would argue not. People do lots of things that that with hindsight may not be the best of ideas. Does looking at Best Gore (The site is gone now, thank The Pond Gods) make one a serial killer? The trouble is, the police and courts would say, "Ah! See what he was looking at? He must be guilty." the same can be said for her diary; it fits the narrative, but that doesn't mean it's proof.
I would argue we've seen an erosion of: "Beyond reasonable doubt." over the years in favour of the Vera syndrome: "Com on, you did it!" 🤷♂️
My daughter (The Nurse) is convinced she's guilty.
"Come on, Dad, She's very strange. She sent love letters to a Consultant!"
Oh, so infatuation is proof of committing infanticide, is it? 🤦♂️
"I don't mean to be rude."
"Don't take this the wrong way."
"With the greatest of respect."
Have you noticed that when people make that statement, they proceed to rip you to bits after playing what they believe is a "Get out of jail" card?
#politics #winterfuel #labour
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Keir Starmer: “We are going to have to be unpopular”
The prime minister says his government has to do 'difficult things now' even if they are unpopular in order to bring about change.YouTube
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Translation:
"I don't mean to be rude." - I couldn’t care less what you think or say, I’ll do and say what I want
"Don't take this the wrong way."- - I couldn’t care less what you think or say, I’ll do and say what I want
"With the greatest of respect." - I couldn’t care less what you think or say, I’ll do and say what I want
And those using these phrases think were daft enough not to know what they mean.
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#DoubleStandards
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Minister won’t deny UK government may rent prison space in Estonia
Justice ministry reportedly considering sending criminals in England and Wales to Baltic stateJamie Grierson (The Guardian)
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See, that is the greatest lie of the 21st century. While some of the initial countries, such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, and possibly even Turkey, might be a bit dangerous for them, you can't possibly believe Hungary, Austria, Italy, Switzerland, and France or Germany, Belgium, and France are not "Safe Countries" for a fleeing Afghan?
I watched a programme the other day documenting how numerous towns across Italy are welcoming migrants in the hope of reanimating dead towns and villages. Yet, thousands ignore that option and race for Calais.
While many migrants may have family in the UK, that doesn't mean they get an automatic right to come here. It is obvious why Britain is the destination of choice. I wonder what would happen if the welfare state was abolished?
I didn't say anything about the safety of those countries.
Are you under the impression that there's some international rule saying people fleeing war have to stop at the first safe place they come to?
That rule doesn't exist, and it would be madness if it did, forcing the fleeing population to bunch up on the borders instead of spreading out around the world.
Scotland also wants immigrants, the UK is in dire need of immigrants because the population is old and retiring.
Most immigrants don't pick the UK, and those that do usually do so because of the language I suspect. That and Only Fools And Horses.
If they are under the impression we have a particularly generous welfare state they soon find they are mistaken.
Now, all that's needed is correspondence to come to light from the letting agents to Jas Athwal informing him of the state of some of the fifteen properties he (and a family member) owns in and around Ilford.
#RogueLandlords #Labour
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Labour MP Jas Athwal sacks letting agent after mould scandal
MP sacks agency managing his rental flats, after the BBC found black mould and ant infestations.Joe Pike (BBC News)
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#immigration #politics #far-right #change
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Germany: Far-right AfD party wins state election for first time
The party won 32.8% of the vote in Thuringia, followed by the centre-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) with 23.6%.Sky News
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Ken Fallon of 𝗛𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗿 𝗣𝘂𝗯𝗹𝗶𝗰 𝗥𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗼 interviews Gary Williams about rebooting the OggCamp event.
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This demonstrates that Kier Starmer has no backbone if he's intimidated by a painting of a dead former prime minister.
#Politics
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Sir Keir Starmer removes 'unsettling' portrait of Margaret Thatcher from No 10
Tories brand PM’s move ‘petty-minded’ and say it shows he has ‘no respect for our history’Amy Gibbons (The Telegraph)
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#Labour #Politics #TheMoneyIsAllGone
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𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗣𝘂𝗯𝗹𝗶𝗰: "It's all falling apart, they're rioting in the streets!"
𝗟𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝗿: "We'll lock 'em all up!"
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗣𝘂𝗯𝗹𝗶𝗰: "But the prisons are full!"
𝗟𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝗿: "We'll keep 'em locked up in police cells!"
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗣𝘂𝗯𝗹𝗶𝗰: "Nobody is being arrested because there's nowhere to keep them!"
𝗟𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝗿: "Did we send Bibby Stockholm back yet?"
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#labour
England riots: Emergency move to ease prison overcrowding activated
The government says the move is needed to create space for those being jailed after riots in England.Henry Zeffman (BBC News)
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They always arrest the latest criminals and let the ones who have been there awhile free.
Then six months later those are back with a trail of blood of their victims.
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I would be speechless if it weren't for the fact this type of thinking doesn't surprise me; in fact, it shows that it's not capitalists and Tories you need to worry about but socialists!
Clive Lewis #Labour MP, would like to see a government-run social media platform
https://x.com/labourlewis/status/1824843448299512191
This has nothing to do with 'Freedom' or 'Protection' but everything to do with Control. Making sure you are only exposed to acceptable ideas and opinions. Read through the comments on the 𝕏 post. Some of those who favour the idea are beyond belief! If they hate 𝕏 so much, why are they still using it? One or two even have paid accounts!
𝗜𝗳 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗱𝗼𝗻'𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲 𝗶𝘁, 𝗟𝗘𝗔𝗩𝗘!
𝘍𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘰𝘷𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘗𝘰𝘯𝘥 𝘎𝘰𝘥𝘴. 🤦♂️
Hmm? So it would seem #Labour is not interested in determining why some sections of the UK are unhappy or finding ways to bring harmony to the population. Apparently, the answer is to find more ways to shut people up and get them to toe the line.
If you ask me, the right to "Free speech" is being eroded on a daily basis.
That doesn't mean I agree with rioting etc. before some poorly educated, inarticulate cretin jumps in. I'm more concerned about governments controlling what we are allowed to say.
First They Came – by Pastor Martin Niemöller (Edited)
First, they came for the demonstrators, but I did not speak out because I was not a demonstrator.
Then they came for the Facebook and 𝕏 users, and I did not speak out because I was not a controversial poster.
Then, they came for the pubgoers because of what they spoke about, and I did not speak out because I didn't visit pubs.
Then they came for my neighbour and I did not speak out because he played music too loud.
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Home Secretary Yvette Cooper to crack down on people 'pushing hateful beliefs'
The Home Office has said it will "kickstart" an initiative to "tackle the threat posed by extremist ideologies".Niamh Lynch (Sky News)
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#Labour #TheMoneyIsAllGone
We want same pay award as drivers, says RMT boss Mick Lynch
The rail workers' union wants the same terms as a three-year pay deal offered to striking drivers.Paul Seddon (BBC News)
43 days ago, you bought a 2nd hand car. Today, the brakes failed; you killed four people. You get arrested, convicted and imprisoned because it's your car. The fact the previous owner never maintained the breaks is no defence. #Labour
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#Labour #TheMoneyIsAllGone
Train drivers offered bumper pay rise from Starmer to end strikes
The Government has offered a 15 per cent pay rise over three yearsGareth Corfield (The Telegraph)
Whether you like Liz Truss or not or feel "she crashed the economy," she's invited to be interviewed, where, hopefully, you might hear her side of the story. Yet an individual with the maturity of a six-year-old pulls a stunt and thinks it's clever.
How are we going to learn from all the mistakes the Conservatives made if every time there's an opportunity to call them to account, some cretin goes for social media air-time?
#cabbage #LizTruss
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Liz Truss leaves stage over ‘I crashed the economy’ lettuce banner
Former PM said ‘that’s not funny’ when remote-controlled banner was unfurled behind her at event in SuffolkAletha Adu (The Guardian)
I had to do some searching to find this. I wonder why it's not more prominent in today's news stories? 🤔
Employment up by 2% is huge. There are 37.5 Million people of working age in the UK, with 33.09M as of June 2024 now in some form of employment.
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UK unemployment falls slightly as pay growth slows
The UK's unemployment rate fell to 4.2% in the three months to the end of June, figures suggest.Daniel Thomas & Dharshini David (BBC News)
So #labour and Kier Starmer have succeeded in scaring UK 𝕏 users into silence with 118 prison sentences handed out some of which are related to people making posts on Social Media. In the good old days, you could talk bollocks in a pub nowadays, you'll get two years for making an inaccurate post. 👮♂️𝗕𝗕
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Government says cells are ready for rioters
The Government has insisted that there will be enough prison cells available for those arrested and held in prison following riots around the UK this month. The disturbances began after the murders…insidetime & insideinformation
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Your post is inaccurate. There have been no new laws on this since the election. Online safety act is from last year. I wonder who came up with that.
Musk could be guilty of such crimes himself.
Well the courts will act based on existing laws that were not added by this government. How do you think the previous lot would have handled this? Some of them have gone very quiet.
I've not heard of anyone being banged up for chatting down the pub.
you're like a stuck record. It was implied in what you said. How else does a government control what the courts do? I'm waiting for Farage to get charged.
Anyway, things seem to have quietened down a bit now thugs and keyboard warriors are getting banged up. Maybe it works.
We can disagree on who is wrong. We each have our axes to grind and have a global platform these days rather than just who's in the pub. If you put stuff out then expect to have it scrutinised and interpreted in various ways.
I see a lot less now I'm off Twtr. Maybe I should stop following you here. It may be better for my mood.
I would have said it's a free country, but now that Starmer has told Mark Rowley to go after anyone, be they rioters or people posting on Facebook, it's not as free as it once was.
The laws have been in place since 2012, and while a few convictions have resulted from them over the years, they have not been enforced as severely as they are currently being implemented.
To be clear, every rioter deserves all they get, although I'm not sure a 12-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl deserve the full force of the law. Youthful exuberance springs to mind. What next? Shipment off to a re-education camp?
I'm not overly keen on a custodial sentence for something written on social media. I remember seeing the phrases Ubuntu and Rape being used in a post a few years back. Should the author get 18 Months for that? It seems to me sections of society want to pick and choose. There's a reason Lady Justice has a blindfold: the justice she dispenses is fair and equal to all.
@steevc
'How do you think the previous lot would have handled this ?'
Funnily enough, the Tories handled the 2011 riots in exactly the same way (rapid prosecutions). A tactic that Kier Starmer has successfully re-used.
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Rapid riot prosecutions more important than long sentences, says Keir Starmer
Director of public prosecutions challenges received wisdom that heavy sentences for rioters worked as an effective deterrenceFiona Bawdon (The Guardian)
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I think the pertinent point here is why can't they shift, recruit resources and cut the time for asylum claims to reduce the massive waiting list which, in turn, leads to the need to house people on a temporary basis until their claim is ruled on.
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Asylum backlog
The asylum backlog refers to the number of people seeking asylum in the UK who are awaiting a decision on their case.Tom Sasse (Institute for Government)
Sorry - by 'they' I lay the blame at the previous incumbents, not Labour necessarily.
Mark Meechan was sent to jail for posting on social media in 2018. He make his girlfriends dog do hitler salutes and filmed it for instagram. So we don't really even need the tories most recent round of censorship laws to imprison folks for social media jokes.
The country marches towards authoritarianism whichever party is in power.
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Hold the phone! The Labour government can suddenly find the capacity to lock up rioters and yet hasn't the room to lock up shoplifters and burglars.
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UK disorder: Keir Starmer says rioters will face 'full force of the law'
The government said it would make more than 500 new prison places available to jail those taking part in the violence.Hafsa Khalil (BBC News)
Oh, here we go! I await someone to respond: "In that case, Burka's should be banned!" 🤦♂️
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Balaclavas to be banned in Ireland amid anti-immigration demonstrationsts
In response to a wave of disturbances the wearing of masks will be illegal when there is clear ‘intent to intimidate’James Crisp (The Telegraph)
There really are some dumb fucks on Social Media. The worst ones are those who think they're intelligent!
"𝘐𝘧 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘨𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘴, 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘭𝘰𝘤𝘬𝘦𝘥 𝘶𝘱. "
Aren't all our prisons full? Isn't that why Starmer plans to release people early? Where are you going to house all these rioters? Oh, I know, The Bibby Stockholm is available now, isn't it? 🤦♂️
Anyone who does not come via our Customs system is illegal, period. There is no argument or justification anyone can put to me to change my belief in that regard.
Nobody said you said anything? I was hoping you could explain the distinction to me.
I would argue that Starmer's current actions are borderline fascist. He's not ordered water cannons onto the streets. He's not offered some form of arbitration bringing 'community leaders' together; he just appears to have brought out the cosh. Which also seems to be weilded towards only one side of the argument.
Why should I explain something I never proposed? The twitterati seem to spout random opinions.
What are the sides in this argument? People who are attacking the police, torching cars, trying to burn down hotels and other violent acts need to be stopped and deterred. They don't seem interested in arbitration when they turn up with beer and masks.
Do we have water cannons? Johnson bought some that were never used.
I fear someone will be killed. That would be tragic.
This is Labour's classic incompetence. They cancel things like the Bibby Stockholm barge and the Rwanda plan without offering the general public an alternative solution.
Now, there will be those who will say, "That's got nothing to do with it!" But it has everything to do with it. Southport was simply the lancing of the boil that has been building for a good few years now. I'm also uneasy about simply labelling this unrest as "far right." There's massive unhappiness on all sides. The government needs to look at treating the symptoms and not the easiest route of swiftly cutting an arm or leg off, hoping that stops the patient from complaining.
Most civil unrest is started by incidents that bear little relation to the main thrust. The problem these days is that one has to be very careful of what words are used, mainly because people's emotions are on a hair trigger.
I do not disagree with some of what you said; however, I do think a larger portion of the UK than folk are willing to admit are at the end of the road with illegals, and they are illegal if they don't come through customs. People feel marginalised and frankly shat on. I get it when young folk have no job or a chance of getting a council house, let alone a mortgage, and they see videos on 𝕏 of people in hotels getting three square meals and all the support they need.
I totally agree. This is mindless thuggery, and yes, there may well be elements of right-wing influence, but to believe that's all it is is naive or, at the very least, too simple an answer. I honestly believe the problems run deeper than just simple racism.
No one has a clue what to do with the illegal immigration though - and it's not just UK, most of the media don't point to the same conversations happening all around Europe.
Mistakes have been made on illegal immigration. If you are seeking asylum you don't dump your ID in the channel and come into the UK undocumented.
And, as a new government, you don't just give an amnesty to 90,000 illegal migrants without checking it's safe to do so. I know there must be some hiding in the countryside who dodged Border Force and entered unchallenged.
There is so much going wrong in our country now. A neighbour witnessed Shoplifters from London arriving by train, at our station, emptying supermarket shelves unchallenged and hopping on a train back to London. When train station staff were informed of it they said "Yeah, they've got it down to a fine art" and the police are totally disinterested.
That's what I've been moaning about for months. Our news, especially the BBC, is so biased and geared to only allowing left-wing stories that the British public is unaware European countries have walls of barbed wire and are shipping their illegals to Morroco and Algeria. I suspect an illegal would rather be shipped to Rwanda than Algeria! And yet, the woke brigade managed to successfully sabotage the program through disinformation and shaming.
Wrong on a few fronts there too:
The EDL hasn't been a thing in over 10 years and Tommy Robinson has nothing to do with whatever might be left of it.
The police detained him for the allowed 6 hours permitted by the anti-terror legislation they arrested him under. He was released without charge unconditionally and he went on holiday with his family as he had arranged prior. He didn't leave by secret means and flew out of the country like anyone else.
There is no arrest warrant awaiting him for not attending a fictitious court hearing. This is all a fabrication of the lefty media.
Tommy Robinson leaves UK on eve of court case with arrest warrant issued
The far-right activist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon left the UK by a Eurotunnel train on Sunday night.Dominic Casciani (BBC News)
I heard it was a video he was not allowed to show, which he duly showed yet again (I presume on 𝕏?) Of course, the key question should be, is this video (which I have not seen) fictitious, or is it that the video would stir up trouble? If it's the latter, I wonder if that's "suppression of freedom of speech"? 🤷♂️
I have no time for Tommy Robinson, but it's a stretch to say he's behind these riots, which I've seen promoted on 𝕏 throughout today.
My biggest concern about this "court case" is the warrant being issued but the judge saying not to act on it until October so that Robinson my choose to attend voluntarily. Something's off there.
I don't believe that Tommy Robinson is behind these riots. He's spent a lot of time recently reporting inequalities in the law and urging those attending his rallies to behave lawfully and respectfully. It's also worth noting that all demographics of society have been present at those rallies.
Well, that's not good. 😞
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And so the "Nows our chance to get lots of money" begins.
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GPs vote to take collective action for first time in 60 years
Family doctors in England have voted overwhelmingly in favour of taking collective action for the first time in 60 years.Sky News
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