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The UK population in mid-year 2022 was estimated to be 67.6 million, with approximately 54.38 million people eligible to vote. As of mid-2022, there are approximately 21 million people aged 50 and over in the UK, which leaves 33.38M.

In the last General Election, held on December 12, 2019, the Labour Party received 10,269,051 votes. Even if we say that figure could be doubled for the coming GE, 20,538,102, that still leaves over 12M votes for the 50+ age group. Of course, not everyone votes, and yes, there are all the other parties plus idiots who'll "Spoil their papers" or just not vote, but 12M is a lot of influence.

This election is going to be interesting. The Tories are predominantly targeting the 50+ age range, while Labour seems to be appealing to the young first-time voters.

Bringing back National Service is going to be very popular with the 50+ voter especially the Community Work element for those who refuse. This is already happening for people looking to stay in the UK, with work visa applicants who are looking to extend their 12-month work visa being made to do X amount of hours 'Carer' work as a pre-requisite to extension or find an employer willing to sponsor them.

Oh, and as a side benefit, it'll slash unemployment. That's nice. 🙂

news.sky.com/story/sunak-says-…
#politics #NationalService #CommunityService

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Yep, it's pretty clever; it'll appeal to a wide range of people, not just old farts, and if it's presented in the right way, as it appears to be, people will lap it up:

"Don't worry; little Johnny won't have to fight in the front line; he can learn how to kill people with drones from the safety of Mildenhall."

"Knife crime? What knife crime? They're off the streets and in the base learning how to shoot people!"

"We've slashed unemployment! Plus, there are more jobs for middle-aged to more senior people now that all the youth have been removed from the job market. Plus, there's an unforeseen bonus: all these National Service youth will be fully trained and able to read and write when they hit the job market after leaving the forces and not head straight for the dole queue."

Fook me! I should apply to do Tory marketing. 🤣

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I think Sunak has miscalculated here. The grey voters may lap this up (I personally won't) but the young voters will vote Labour because they don't like the idea of this.

Upon hearing of this, my 21 year old son said "Well, he's royally f*cked his chances there!".

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And that's the thing. The only ones it will affect are currently 14!!! And that's assuming the Tories can implement it within four years. Current 16-year-olds that Labour is chasing with their "We're going to lower the voting age." won't be affected; hell, they'll probably be 18 or 19 by the time Labour gets their insane idea implemented.

Think about it: Labour is going to give the vote to people who cannot buy alcohol, cigarettes or vapes. They cannot marry without parent's consent. The age for Homosexual consent is 18. The list just goes on and on, and yet Labour wants them to make the important decision as to who should run the country. There is only one reason why this is in the Labour policy, and that is to scrape extra votes from a class that has not even started to gain life experience.



And they're off!
So the two-horse race for the #generalelection2024 has started and already Rishi Sunak has made two mistakes. I have to agree with @peston's first prediction of a November election this would have given more time for interest rates to come down along with fuel and food. There would have been more time for more than just one person to enjoy the scenery of Rwanda. Secondly, why didn't he wait for 8 or 9 am this morning when there was less chance of looking like the gods were pissing all over him. #politics

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Not just the money, he's also given away a lot of our military assets to Ukraine without any plan to replace them other than Shapps saying "Our forces will have to think on their feet and learn to adapt to situations!". Political-speak for "Sorry, we've shafted you, you're on your own!".
in reply to Neil Darlow :gotosocial: :silverblue: :xmpp:

Yep, I can't argue with that. Still, at least we've still got Green Goddesses in storage to pick up the pieces.

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Or it would be much easier - I mean a war on a state is much easier than people complaining that you're fighting people you're supposed to protect.
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I think the Israelis would be extremely happy if the Palestinians went to Jordan or some other country and let Israel have all the land. I don't believe they have any interest in coexistence,
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I don't think the Israelis care so long as they get off the land. Every time they recover the body of a hostage it gives Israelis a reason to not only stay but to push on further.
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I'm not convinced people realise just how serious this is.
bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-6902615… IMO, the advice is cursory at best: "Boil the water." The parasite is in the supply, which means any water out of your taps in the kitchen and bathroom, including the toilet.

Even when you do get the "ALL CLEAR," it'll take a good few days of running your taps and flushing the loo to clean the system out.

I love this: "Likely cause...." personally, I don't believe a word of it. The wording is 'get out of jail'. For starters, it gives them an opportunity later to say, "We did say likely, you know."

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While, of course, nobody wants to see people fall ill, it's having a devastating effect on the holiday market in the area. "Come to Devon, enjoy the s̶i̶t̶e̶s̶ shits."


The m̶a̶n̶ woman who would be king.

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#politics #labour

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Watched the Asley Maddison documentary on Netflix last night.
netflix.com/gb/title/81602884

TBH, I wasn't all that interested in the salacious side of the story and yet was also slightly disappointed at the cursory attention by the programs producers in relation to the actual hack. the two 'experts' Joel Eriksson and André Catry employed by Ashley Maddison to basically lock the door after the horse had bolted was strange. Any Security expert worth their salt would have immediately informed the customer that the data was already copied to another location and so therefore preventing release was pretty much impossible.

What wasn't explained, which was disappointing, is how the hackers managed to gain the breadth of information. Most business would have the data spread over a number of servers for the very reason of a breach. It's almost like Ashley Maddison only had one server that not only held the website backend database but also the company and staff data too!

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So, the theory being put forward by #ReformUK is a 20% tax relief on all private healthcare and insurance. The inference being that if more people take up private healthcare, there will be less demand on the #nhs. Sounds logical, right? The only problem is that we all know what will happen. If demand falls, so will the funding. Another "innovative?" idea is: "𝘊𝘶𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘴 𝘣𝘺 𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘜𝘒 & 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘦𝘢𝘴 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘷𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴." so basically shipping our sick and injured to another country. #politics

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Why not charge extra tax on private care and give it to the NHS? Reform is funded by a few rich people to try and benefit themselves.
It seems Tory promises are pretty worthless. I suspect there are various issues with running the NHS, but driving people to private care is not the answer, unless you are earning from that.
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Because as it says in the ReformUK manifesto, taxing private healthcare would make that option more expensive, thus encouraging those who could afford private healthcare to use the NHS, which is exactly the problem that needs solving. You need to get away from this fixation that the NHS needs more money; it doesn't, or at least not in the way you mean. What it needs are fewer users and more capacity.
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But they were promised the millions we would save from Brexit! The bus wouldn't lie to us!
I know it's not just a money problem.At least they ought to get less smokers with trashed lungs eventually. I'm amazed Sunak was allowed to do that by the tobacco lobby.
Please don't promote Reform as serious politics. They don't care about the country.
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If you'd bothered to read what I wrote properly rather than thinking, "AHA! Another thing I can kick Cannon's bollocks for." you would see that I was, in fact, deriding that policy. The only bit I agree with is tax relief on private health care. Seems like a sensible idea to me. Taxing private healthcare is a typical Labour reaction: "Oh, we're not having anyone getting better healthcare even if they have paid for it!" that's the same mentality they have towards education. "We do not want grammar schools whereby some children have a better advantage than others; we want everyone to be equally thick!"

As I said, if we manage to reduce demand on the NHS, then Labour, especially, would probably look to cut NHS spending to help give the Train drivers a Porsche each.

I have no intention of "Promoting" Reform UK. They're too far right for me, but they do have one or two ideas in the manifesto that warrant consideration.

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Count Binface seems to have more sensible policies than that shower.
I'm really not out to always put you down.If one issue is with getting people to work in that industry then how does making it private help? Some people just can't afford to go private, so make the public services better.
And I'm still not a Labour guy, but I can vote tactically.
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If you can afford private, you should, but the effect on NHS demand would be unnoticeable. We'd be talking about four, maybe five thousand people in terms of reduction. We're talking about ten to twenty thousand increases every year for the NHS.

I want to see a third option. We need to speed up those 40 hospitals we were promised. If I had my way, I would build NHS hotels and ship out recovering patients to them or at least those who have no immediate threat to life. Where we (in your view, the government) went wrong was to close all those nightingale hospitals. They should have said to the likes of the NEC, "Bollocks! You're not having it back until we are good and ready." They were all kitted out and ready, perfect for what I envisaged and yet we threw away £66M and the opportunity to not treat patients in corridors.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHS_Nigh…

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Not only are Air Fryers the new microwave, but they were also clearly invented for men!
#sausages #gingsters #pukkapies #chips

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I wonder how many doctor's phone lines are jammed this morning after seeing this on the news?
#WeightLoss

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For crying out loud! I wish I'd kept my mouth shut!

So I see the binman lift the lids on our bins and walk away. It would seem obvious to me, without looking at the bins myself, that they are either empty or not worth lifting. I rang our Admin and said to make a note that they have not done a lift and to check the invoice when it comes in. Admin asks me to check the bins. "But it's obvious they're empty or not worth it; he's hardly likely to walk away from a bin that's full!" It turns out the Recycle is empty, and the General has hardly anything in it. The next thing I know, the binman is back and lifts the empty bin!

I ring our Admin. "The bloke has come all the way back and lifted an empty bin!"

The admin waffles on about paying in advance, and they have to record a lift. Do I want to reduce collections to fortnightly? I wish I hadn't bothered.

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I was absolutely livid when I saw this story. The Magna Carta is the most important document we have and these two morons don't have the brain cell to understand if it wasn't for the document they tried to destroy they wouldn't be walking around with the freedom they have!
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lond…


I dunno. Labour is already making massive mistakes, and they've not even been voted into power yet!
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-689…
#politics #GeneralElection

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There always has to be one nosey git, hasn't there? I've bought some Kopparberg cider for the misses and put it in the fridge so that they should be reasonably cold when I get home. I just had the go-for come to my door (Mr "Have you got a clipboard?) and say: "Did you want the last cider in the fridge? I like cider."

FFS

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No, he was an immature smart arse. You know the sort of thing: "Have you got some beers in the fridge?" Well duh?


I'm thinking of switching my office fan on, but I don't want to get covered in 14 lbs of dust and cobwebs!

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#Audible Currently listening to The Battle for Spain by Antony Beevor
I've read the book a couple of times before! I must have more money than sense?
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Throughout history, countries have been banned from events due to their activities. For example, Russia, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Japan, Germany, Turkey, Hungary, Austria, Bulgaria. #Eurovision has banned countries, too. Are they scared of being called antisemitic?

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While walking the dog, I saw smoke over Cannock, which is eight miles away. ITV News says there's a massive fire, and businesses have been told to evacuate. Why couldn't it have been near our business?
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Oi @dick_turpin you might have upgraded your Instance but, I think you broke crossposting?


Sadly, it's like celebrating being in the lifeboat of the Titanic!


Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned.
I have eaten the Chicken Big Mac, large fries 5 cheesy bites and an orange juice.

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I will have to wait until tomorrow for the voting results for the Midlands. 😟
#politics

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Nope. I've been saying for days it's going to be a slaughterhouse; I fully expect to lose the General Election, too. The question is, how badly?
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I can actually agree with you this time :) People have seen them for what they are and didn't like it.
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Not in the way you keep going on about. I don't think your average voter cares that Brexit happened on their watch. I don't think they care too much about sleaze, we're all used to it. In my opinion, this has to do with the behaviour during lockdown, but more importantly, it's the fifteen-year curse all over again. The public seems to only be able to stomach fifteen years of one party before they vote in "The other lot".
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Well the 'average voter' doesn't exist so there will be lots of views. If the government were actually doing a good job then they might get more support. They've had five PMs who had a chance over a few years, so maybe they are just hopeless. It's not like they can claim to have achieved a lot.
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Yes, they do; you refuse to accept that. And your statistics are typical flawed data in an attempt to demonstrate some point.

David Cameron: He fucked off like the spoiled brat he is because he didn't get his own way.

Theresa May: While seeming to hold the reins, at least, was unable to make the horse go anywhere.

Boris Johnson: He was actually worse than I thought he would be. There were a lot of people willing to forgive his shortcomings, given his flamboyant personality and the lovable buffoon persona; however, while we knew he was a bit dim, we didn't realise he was an absolute dumb fuck.

Liz Truss: She was a great disappointment, but I'm not sure we can judge her fairly. I have a feeling others threw her under the bus. Even so, I'm not convinced she's PM material.

Rishi Sunak: He basically picked up the poisoned chalice when he became PM; I'd have given him a fifty-fifty chance of turning things around. The problem was that once boils, such as the COVID inquiry, were lanced, all the puss came out, and the slippery slope could not stop.

Unless we get a Tony Blair-type administration, there's going to be a lot of first-time voters in for a shock.

I await your regular disagreement. 🤣

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one could say it's an incredible run of bad luck, but I think it shows the Tory party you love is dead. They are just UKIP by another name. That's not what this country needs.
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@Steve
I'll agree with you while disagreeing.

They fucked up over and over again luck had nothing to do with it. I suspect the party chiefs had the same attitude that Camron had, "Nothing to worry about." Total arrogance and complacency was their downfall.

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so we agree they are not fit for purpose. They just feel entitled to rule. I've noticed that you can't find anything positive to say about them apart from not being Labour
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Oh, I could say loads.
They finally closed the Brexit deal.

They spent nearly a Billion during the pandemic. The problem is that Boris and his team cancelled all of that of their behaviour.

NI has come down.

There are loads, but I'd be wasting my breath because, on social media, the attitude is pretty much "Four legs are good, two legs bad." (Labour Good Tories Bad!) As I keep saying, that is no way to vote in any government.

I'm also modifying my opinion about a GE. I'm now wondering whether it will be November, as some are predicting. I'm wondering what, with ASLEF etc., the Tories might cut their losses and say, "Fuck it." 🤷‍♂️
#politics

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It's debatable whether some of their achievements were beneficial, but I think think they lost some support through being nasty and incompetent. All this 'culture war' bollocks turns people off and going more extreme will keep them in the wilderness. It tends not to make the news, but the various parties do actually work together on a lot of things and we need less confrontation for its own sake. Sorting out the economy, NHS, railways, utilities and other issues will not be easy.
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I would say the Brexit actually wrecked the Tories as they chucked out those who were not true believers. Of course Truss flipped on that in her lust for power. So they lost a lot of competent people are we ended up with idiots like Dories, Anderson and Gullis up there. Johnson may be thought of as a good campaigner, but he was a terrible PM as he doesn't like doing the actual work. At least Thatcher was diligent.
Our politics is a mess (as it is elsewhere) and needs to improve.
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It seems some Tories share my opinions :)

theguardian.com/commentisfree/…

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Meh, it's OK. Labour will do what it always does: throw millions of taxpayers' money at the problem rather than alienating people and actually fixing the issues.


Is it St. Patrick's Day? I seem to have green spots on my rolls. It should be OK, though, shouldn't it?


Charlie and I voted this morning. Getting him a picture license wasn't hard; they give them away like sweets these days. Getting him to hold the pencil was an issue. Not only does he not have any thumbs, but the silly sausage thought it was a chew stick.
#politics #mayoralelections #localelections2024
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I was voting for the Mayor, Police commissioner and local council.


There's a bit of a bottleneck on my way to work. Residents park outside their houses, yet the road isn't wide enough for parked cars and traffic. A cyclist dressed like he was on the Tour de France came hurtling up behind me even though he could see a line of stationary cars waiting to get past. Refusing to wait like the rest of the road users, he mounted the kerb and gave me a filthy look because he couldn't get down the inside of my car, rode past the parked cars, and, I presume, rejoined the road further down.

This is why motorists dislike cyclists. The attitude of entitlement they seem to have is so annoying.

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What have I told you about trying to cater to everyone's preferences? It's impossible. The only solution is to have a one-size-fits-all narrative. 😛

I had a Honda 70 back in 1983, rode it all the way to work in the snow and ice, all the way home in the snow and ice, went to get off it, and the dam thing fell on me and broke my leg! I hate bikes.

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You should work for a tabloid 'newspaper'. Nuance is forbidden!

I rode my motorbikes in all weathers. It could be horrible. So much happier now I hardly drive. It's easier to get to work on the train.



Just wondering how @VetsforPetsUK can justify £25.00 for emptying a dog's anal glands? Especially when it's not even a vet who does it? It takes four to five seconds to complete the procedure, and what if they're empty?

Oh, and then turn around and say: "You might need to bring him back in four weeks." That's £1200.00 a year based on every four weeks!

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How much would you charge for emptying a dogs anal glands?
It sounds worse than ordering a laptop.


I never understand "Unfollow" on my #hive account. I post so rarely that I wonder why it should matter. I could understand it if I was relentlessly churning out posts for the sake of it to keep my momentum up like some of the production line content I often see. I'd probably unfollow myself if I were doing that. 🤣
#Hive

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So, apparently, the first removal to Rwanda has happened. Not exactly in the way some folks would like to see it implemented, with an illegal crying and pleading while being dragged up the staircase by two big, burly Border Force officers.

According to the report, the illegal happily jumped on a plane with £3K in his back pocket. The thing is, I'm not sure that's a deterrent. Remember, supposedly, boat people have nothing, which is why they want to get to the UK. So we're giving them a roof over their heads and three square meals a day plus £3K, and you wonder why the Government is cutting back on PIP.
order-order.com/2024/05/01/kem…

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Just send the government there instead. What a useless shower.
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Given that supposedly the reason lots of people voted "Leave" was because of all "The foreigners", I wonder if those same people will vote Tory, given it looks like they've kept their promise?

I saw a news report last night (Although I'd already heard what was going on) that Border Force is rounding up illegals as they report to signing-on centres like they're supposed to and shipping them to holding centres ready for flights out.

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The leave vote was based on other lies. The Rwanda thing is a ridiculously expensive diversion that won't solve anything. People know how crap the Tories are. Labour have failed to capitalise on this, but may win anyway.

Can you honestly say you are proud of this lot? We deserve better, but they sold out.

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I'm not sure anyone is proud of their government throughout the world.

I'm almost at the point of hoping Labour does win so that those who have never known a Labour government can get a taste of how badly they will take the country down. And as for clueless people who think there's going to be an election before January, there's your average deluded voter right there.

I read with interest that Kier Starmer has stated he fully intends to investigate privatisation opportunities within the NHS, particularly cataract operations. I thought they were the NHS saviours, and it was only the wicked Tories who wanted to sell off the NHS?

If only there were a Utopia that catered for each and every person's needs and quirks.

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So you're not proud of them :)

Politics tends to be a 'least worst' game, but the Tory lurch to the right has been extreme. They got rid of the smart/moderate ones. Labour are not the lefties of old. Starmer is treading a tightrope and compromising on various things. I would like to see him be more radical.

Nobody expects 'utopia', but they do hope for competence and compassion.

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While I would hope I'm not too far right-wing, I have to say I wince at your use of "Compassion" It smacks of rollover and be arse fucked. Personally, I would like to see more firmness, and Rwanda is the first step. The best of it is the UK is doing no different than other EU countries, each of which is shipping their illegals off to less-than-ideal countries such as Romania, which, if anyone bothered to look correctly, is a half-sight more dangerous than Rwanda. But we don't hear about it because the biased BBC et al. don't report it. I've never seen one news report about where Italy, for example, is sending its illegals. I found out by accident TBH. In my book, failure to report is just as bad as fake reporting. If information is withheld, an action looks far worse than it is. I'm convinced if everyone knew the UK is only doing what others are doing, there would be fewer complaints and less people up in arms.
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Now the fun starts.
bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotlan…
#politcs

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have you sent in your CV? I'd love to see you try the job.
in reply to Steve

Everyone should have an opinion; what's wrong with the world today is the fear of voicing one's opinions.
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oh we know you like to voice yours. Doesn't mean they are right. Likewise with mine. We're overwhelmed with opinions and starved of facts. Or at least people are not trusting journalists who have to check theirs.


Why is this important?
bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotlan…
This will give a good indication of voting intentions for #GE2025.
We need to see how well #Labour does.
#Politics

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Birmingham City Council signed off on a two-year £300M cut last night; they're skint. Broke, the cashbox is empty!

Like it or not, it's due to poor management, two binmen strikes, hosting the Commonwealth games, investing in a shite IT system that cost more than its worth. Being found guilty of underpaying women for years, and yet a union guy was threatening further strike action while others seemed to think there was a magic wand or a printing press in the council basement that was able to continue haemorrhaging money.

What was the total bollocks stock answer that's always given: "Central Government caused this." 🤦‍♂️
#cuts #BirminghamCityCouncil

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Yeh I mean if they'd given the £300M to a local IT company....
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Over £100M they've spent on the Oracle migration so far, and it's still not working properly.


With so many kids starved by their parents or parents not being able to feed their kids, I have to agree with this: Labour Would Introduce Universal Free Breakfast Clubs in School order-order.com/2024/03/03/phi… via @guidofawkes


It's a pretty clever ploy by the Tories to give everyone a tax cut, hopefully, to buy votes for the General Election, and if that doesn't work, then Labour will look the villain of the part if they win and have to put taxes up to pay for their ideas.

theguardian.com/politics/2024/…



If only we could get one of these on the Moon or Mars, we'd really be able to get the ball rolling. #Colonalisation




It amazes me that people join the Fediverse, X, Facebook, etc., and yet only want to interact with four specific people. #LeSigh #SocialMedia #WalledGarden


Some folk seek solace from the Bible. As the Red Hordes burn their way across the UK, I lament that there is not one single strong leader in the #Conservative party. If only, like King Arthur, Maggie could come back to save us from the looming darkness. #politics #wellingborough
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@steevc Hmm? I was reading up in Private Eye about Labour MPs and their dodgy donations from businesses. Although, in the sense of fairness, businesses donate to both the Tories and Labour. It's good to keep a foot in both camps.
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@dick_turpin Those with money will try to game the system. I'd be in favour of MPs having to wear sponsor logos like those in sport. We know a lot of them go straight from politics to a nicely paid board post.
I do think some of them really care about improving matters, but they are all just human. Money is a powerful motivator.


𝗜𝘀𝗻'𝘁 𝗶𝘁 "𝗧𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗸𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘆𝗼𝘂'𝗿𝗲 𝗼𝘂𝘁!"?

A third Labour politician was involved in the Antisemitic furore.
#politics #labour #Antisemetism
news.sky.com/story/third-labou…

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Shades of @rickygervais and Afterlife
expressandstar.com/news/local-…

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Pfft, so the former Labour candidate could win even though Labour has withdrawn support. What a complete shambles. Still, that's Labour for you.
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