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When Rishi Sunak sets out his stall as the opposition, it will be backed by a group of people he barely knows now that nearly all the well-known names are out of a job.
#politics #GE2024

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"𝗤𝘂𝗶𝗻𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘂𝘀 𝗩𝗮𝗿𝘂𝘀, 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗺𝘆 𝗘𝗮𝗴𝗹𝗲𝘀!"

Poor Margaret must be spinning in her grave. 😢
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#politics #GE2024

in reply to dick_turpin

Former seats of Cameron, Johnson and May plus current of Truss all flipped. Where is the Tory heartland now?


My former MP Eddie Hughes, who buggered off to what I presume he thought was a safe seat in Tamworth, is out of a job.
birminghammail.co.uk/news/midl…

Maybe if he had stayed with the Constituency, he might have won because he was well-liked in the town.
#politics #GE2024

in reply to dick_turpin

Did we ever see the report about Russian interference with the Tories?


And so, as everyone knew, the Conservatives are barely represented in UK society today, having suffered the worst defeat in British political history. While there will be lots of jubilation for those who voted Labour, I can't help feeling that the biggest factor in their victory was that the Tories handed it to them on a plate, not only with their behaviour but also the arrogance of their belief in the former majority they held and that it wasn't won through any groundbreaking manifesto promises. In my opinion, a large proportion voted Labour to "Get the Tories out". To coin a phrase: "How the mighty have fallen." But as has been pointed out, that's democracy for you, and it proves that "Votes" do count.

Obviously, as a lifelong Tory voter myself, I'm not convinced that Labour is the answer or can address the problems facing us today, but they now have five years and an unbeatable majority to prove myself and my fellow Conservative voters wrong. From my point of view, all I can hope for now is for the Party to overhaul itself and look for By-Election opportunities to start clawing seats back.

Well done, Labour, the people have spoken.
#politics #GE2024

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so it turned out even Brexit couldn't heal there internal divisions.

It's just a shame they could not put the country first, rather than their internal problems.

It will be interesting to see when Sunak steps down.

in reply to Chris Ellis

I get the feeling he would love to be the party leader who brought them back from the abyss.

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76 people have now taken my UK General Election Quiz…but the average score is down to 3/10. Boo!

Can you do better? Help boost the score average and have some fun while waiting for the results to come in!

#UKElection
#Quiz
#GTTO
#ToryDeathParty

jetpunk.com/user-quizzes/20182…

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in reply to Juggling With Eggs

Hmm? 4 out of 10, but the timer didn't help. I don't blame you; it stops people from Googling the answer. Nice job. 👍
in reply to dick_turpin

@dick_turpin

It’s always the way with Jet Punk quizzes…it’s quick fire, either you know it or guess!

in reply to Steve

@steevc

Vote share seems to be the thing that confused everyone…being a politics nerd it’s what I’m interested to see about today’s election. People are saying Starmer could win a landslide on a vote share that is comparable or less than what Corbyn got at last election.

in reply to Juggling With Eggs

Vote share and seats can be very different. It's the system we're stuck with and Labour probably won't change it.
in reply to Steve

TBH, I should have got 5; I panicked when I saw 25 seconds. It'd be no good giving me the nuke keys and expecting me to make a split-second decision. 🤣
in reply to Steve

I saw "Thatcher" and thought it was the answer to every bleedin(g) question! 🤣
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in reply to dick_turpin

@dick_turpin @steevc

I find I get like that…it’s even harder with the quizzes that are not multiple choice and you have to type the answer at speed on a phone!



I wonder if, at some stage tomorrow, Rishi will start sending out Tweets telling supporters to 'show up' at Westminster to protest the stolen election? 😉


Loving all these people posting photos of their ballot papers.
https://x.com/alexharmstrong/status/1808828289382752721

Interestingly, I've not seen any Labour or Conservative ones?
#politics #GE2024 #vote

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in reply to Steve

I've seen a good few. Liberal, ReformUK and a Green party.
in reply to dick_turpin

I don't think you can map that to results. Reform knobs like to boast :)


So caught up in today's UK elections forgot to wish our American cousins:
"HAPPY TREASON DAY."

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200+ Seats would be awesome. 100 seats would be catastrophic. Then again, I remember the last time everyone thought the Tories would lose, and they were returned with an even bigger majority.
#politics #GE2024 #vote #KeepTheFaith


It's so depressing seeing people posting with glee at the Conservative's potential demise when they themselves have never lived under a Labour government or are too young to remember the last one. You have no idea.
#politics #GE2024 #vote
in reply to dick_turpin

@wiredfire

I agree the Iraq war was a warcrime.

Regarding the tories:
We've also had Liz Truss losing 30bn quid in one week because she was criminally reckless and stupid, we had billions of public money stolen by the tories through the PPE and TrackandTrace scandals.
Brexit was driven by the tory right, and the the tory press lied on their behalf.
Thatcher privatised the water industry, which has led inevitably to our rivers and sea being full of shit.

in reply to Captain Jack Sparrow

I agree, Truss was not only a massive mistake but a huge disappointment given she was billed as the reincarnation of my hero Maggie.

With regard to PPE, Furlough, and, let's not forget, the Nightingale hospitals at £60M a pop, it depends on your perspective. While I was stunned at how the government literally handed over cash without any checks or balances, one could argue it was the right thing to do at the time, given everyone was shit scared of dying. Personally, I'd far rather they threw money away rather than clamp down on bureaucracy. What should have happened was for the Royal Commission to look into ALL payments made by the government at that time, with powers to recover funds where appropriate.

I agree with Margaret Thatcher. It is not the government's role to run businesses and provide employment. Where it all falls down is the likes of OFWAT, either not having enough power or not really doing their job properly and sanctioning the arse off, in this case, the water companies.

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𝗙𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝘂𝗻
It is the epitaph of the Conservatives, I suspect.
#politics GE2024 #vote

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ROTFLMAO

Apparently, the Liberals think this is a good video to promote their suitability to govern.
https://x.com/i/status/1808199262133535175
I thought the Monster Loony Raving Party was a spent force?
#politics #GE2024 #vote



𝗧𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗴𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻.

Wanna know why I'm a moaning caaant? This is why.

A guy has a 2011 PC running W7, but Office won't activate on it. He sends us a second PC he's found and asks us to transfer everything over. The only trouble is that it's that old story: "If it's slung up the back of a cupboard, there's a reason." It's a 2009 PC!

I offer him an i5, 32GB 256 M.2 plus M365; he tries to tell me they have a bunch of M365 licenses and "Can't we use one of those?" after telling him to basically fook off, he then says, "Well, you can have it here in a bit can't you?" I have to explain that; basically, he's wasted the morning, and now our guys are starting lunches, and if he's lucky, he'll have it this afternoon.

Why do people take three weeks to decide and then think they can have it within the hour?

#RantOver

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So here's the dilemma: The Conservatives, whom I have voted for since the age of 18, will lose. I accept that. Normally, I would berate anyone for "Voting tactically," but I'm worried that the Tories will be absolutely slaughtered at the Polls tomorrow, and apparently, voting for someone who will lose is a wasted vote. We need a strong opposition, not some mishmash of Heinz 57 parties. With that in mind, I'm tempted to vote for Reform. 😟
#politics #GE2024 #vote
in reply to penguin42

To paraphrase Farage. I'm not interested in winning; that's a foregone conclusion. I'm more concerned about who will be the opposition and how strong that opposition will be. It's no good for the Tories to be in opposition if they only have 80 seats.


There are 650 Constituencies (Seats) in the UK. Your constituency can only send one MP to Parliament, so if your preferred candidate wins, they will take one seat in the house. Don't listen to this bullshit of "A vote for X is, in fact, a vote for Y." vote for who you believe in!
#politics #GE2024 #vote

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if your preferred candidate doesn't win you get no representation of your views.

If there is someone with a realistic chance of winning who partially represents your views and you vote for them you may at least get some representation.

And of course if everybody does that the parties that are least worst get in.

Where it falls down even more is it the least worst option crosses some red lines. Then you either vote for something you don't agree with, vote for someone who you know won't get in or stay home.

I can't really blame people for staying home. If a party wants people to vote, then convince them. "Voter apathy" is really blaming the wrong people.

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in reply to Jfrench

I don't believe in proportional representation; I think that only increases the chance of someone "Getting in" who one didn't vote for. I think it's a problem that's getting worse in everyday life, tbh. There is far too much choice. You should see my arguments around my local fish & chip shop.

"Is that a special?"
"WTF is a special? I just want fish-n-chips."
🤣




So if anyone fancies invading a British dependency, sometime after 18:05 would do nicely and if you could have your invasion completed by 09:00 the following day, that would be awfully helpful.
#politics #GE2024 #Vote


It's not all quail eggs and salmon for breakfast.
I wonder if he's humming:

♫ ♪ "I wanna live like common people
I wanna do whatever common people do
Wanna sleep with common people
I wanna sleep with common people like you."
Well,​ what else could I do?
I said "I'll... I'll see what I can do" ♬ ♩

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𝗧𝗼𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗻𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗼𝘄 𝗴𝗮𝗽 𝘁𝗼 𝗟𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗶𝗻 𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗹
standard.co.uk/news/politics/g…
#politics #GE2024 #vote
in reply to dick_turpin

Is there a difference between a landslide and an avalanche?


Before people start throwing their toys out of their pram, both the Tories and Labour have been guilty of racism! Labour still has a problem with antisemitism, and the Conservatives have had to deal with Islamaphobia.

If there is such a thing as "Tactical voting", that must mean your votes count!
Remember, you might be stuck with someone for five years, or less, and then you can vote in someone else once the dust has settled.
#politics #Thursday #vote



Rishi Sunak dashes out to Germany, hoping to learn how to win at the last minute!
"It's never over til the fat lady sings!"


"Keir Starmer seems nice enough; the trouble is, you just know somewhere in the Midlands, ASDA is missing a store manager," 🤣🤣🤣
-- Jimmy Carr
#politics

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𝗦𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘄𝗲 𝗴𝗼 𝘁𝗼 𝗠𝗮𝘁𝗹𝗼𝗰𝗸?
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#hive
#Hive

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I placed an order yesterday with @huel for three items, and they've still not been dispatched. Their AI assistant is useless! I'm unsure how I can rephrase "Where's my goods!" and ask to speak to a human; that's a joke; it's simply a message for someone who will email me. That's not speaking to a human. I'm a bit techy because the order should be delivered to my office and we don't work weekends.

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And people were chalking up yet another vice of the Tories:
♫ ♪ "And it's all gone quiet over, all gone quiet over there...." ♬ ♩
news.sky.com/story/labour-cand…
#politics #electiongambling


Here's an idea.

You don't like Farage's idea of net zero migration?

Disgusted at Sunak's Rwanda idea?

Wondering why you've worked hard to get ahead only to be taxed because you apparently have broader shoulders?

𝗦𝗽𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗼𝗿𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗽
Everyone who feels, quote: "Let 'em all in." can pay a fee per week or month (Depending on how you're paid) and pick an immigrant to sponsor, a bit like those "Adopt a Giraffe" schemes. That way, nobody is unfairly taxed, and nobody can complain. 🃏 😉

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No, according to some people, they're all filthy rich, so they'll all be off to much warmer climbs while we all feel the heat of a different kind.


The only celebrity I see pointing out Labour's inability to govern is Jeremy Clarkson.


Who would make the better Prime Minister is the wrong question. Who you would want as Prime Minister is more how things are going these days.
#Politics




So I bought some #Huel greens (£50). I'm not sure what to make of it, tbh. It seems to have a slight metallic after taste. For my palate, maybe I need a bit more than a flat scoop, as it tastes watery. Finally, I'm wondering if you're supposed to drink the whole lot in one go. I thought you sipped at it? 🤷‍♂️

I'll carry on, though. I need to, I've got fifty quids worth.🤣

#huel


𝗞𝗶𝗲𝗿 𝗦𝘁𝗮𝗿𝗺𝗲𝗿 𝘀𝗮𝘆𝘀 𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗯𝗮𝗻 𝘁𝗲𝗻𝗮𝗻𝗰𝘆 𝗯𝗶𝗱𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗮𝗿𝘀.
So, will he be forcing people who sell their homes to accept the first offer made by a prospective buyer? What about car auctions? Must they accept the first offer?

How on earth will this work? Will he set rental tariffs on all properties? That's a lot of work. Who is going to manage that, and where will the money come from to run it? Will Landlords feel it's a worthwhile market to stay in, or will they sell all their properties? In this case, how does that help the housing shortage when there are even more properties on the market that only a few can afford to buy?

Maybe some Housing Ombudsman who you can moan to? But how long will it take to resolve your case while you're waiting on the streets?

Even Kier Starmer himself couldn't answer that question last night because not only is it a stupid, unworkable fop to the voter. Yet again, it's Labour looking to take from someone who has something. It's all Labour knows! You spend your money, time, and effort buying a small property portfolio, probably as an investment for your retirement, and along comes Labour: "𝘖𝘰𝘩! 𝘠𝘰𝘶'𝘳𝘦 𝘥𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦𝘭𝘭! 𝘞𝘦'𝘭𝘭 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘨𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘢𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘶𝘴 𝘭𝘰𝘰𝘬 𝘨𝘰𝘰𝘥."

thesun.co.uk/money/28621666/la…



Every time the Tories stagger back into the ring, there's yet another smack in the mouth!
#politics #ToryScandal
telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/…


Remember children. While you were busy making as many posts as possible to "Get the Tories out", you let Farage in!

Don't forget to thank all those who relentlessly slagged the Conservatives off across all the Social Media platforms, including biased journalists, on the 4th of July. You deserve all you get.
#politics #ShortSighted #PoliticalIgnorance

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in reply to dick_turpin

That's probably an exaggeration. It's Labour which will be let in. Reform might make their presence felt but they won't be the leading player.
in reply to Neil Darlow :gotosocial: :silverblue: :xmpp:

I'm convinced (For the minute) ReformUK will be the opposition. That's still "In" in my book.

What needs to be taken into consideration is that parties like the Greens are picking up [tactical] votes. I'm really worried the Tories could be fourth or worse. Some might naively think that's good, but it will be terrible for the UK, in my opinion. This country needs an experienced, established opposition.

in reply to Andy C

@andyc @neil I'd expect the Tories will still be second unless it goes even worse than predicted. Reform might get 3 seats. FPTP means that share of the vote has little impact if it's spread across the country..

Ah well, in 2 weeks we shall find out.

in reply to Andy C

It looks like they will at the minute. Obviously, we've had shocks on polling day before. Just look what happened when Corbyn forced a vote of no confidence, but I have this feeling the "Change" everyone has clamoured for for the past forty-plus years we might actually get.
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@neil Sorry - what's your source for this prediction ? If you honestly believe that, get down the bookies now and get £100 on it.

You understand how FPTP works, right ? 14% in the polls is meaningless in terms of seats.

'In its first MRP model of the 2024 general election, Ipsos estimated Labour could win 453 seats and the Conservatives 115, giving Keir Starmer’s party a majority of 256 and inflicting the Tories’ worst ever defeat'.

theguardian.com/politics/artic…

in reply to dick_turpin

You shouldn't underestimate the LibDems. Action Man will be picking-up votes across the board just because of negativity to everyone else.
in reply to Neil Darlow :gotosocial: :silverblue: :xmpp:

@neil Ed Davey has run a very odd campaign. Has he completely lost it or just desperately hoping to show 'he's down with the kids' ? Bloody weird. Hard to take him seriously. Plus he was partially culpable for the PO scandal. And yet bizarrely he seems quite proud of his antics.
in reply to Andy C

Doesn't he remind you of someone else when they were running for London Mayor?


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dick_turpin
Exactly!
The attached image is a bit out of date (Labour 406 seats). I saw a projection yesterday that Labour would gain 526 seats. My own view is the Greens are pathetic, LidDem are useless, SNP (Who?) NI, Plaid and the rest of the Heinz 57 lot will never be able to form a viable safety net. Having said that, who knows what will happen on polling day? We've seen the pollsters get it massively wrong before.
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🤣🤣🤣
Watching some of the posts on 𝕏, it just shows how little people actually know about the workings of Parliament. Some posters clearly think our MPs spend every day in the chamber debating. 🤦‍♂️


The hypocrisy of the West
Everyone was up in arms about the Russians conscripting men to fight in Ukraine with soldiers grabbing people off the streets, but when Ukraine does it, that's OK. 🤔
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz994d…
in reply to dick_turpin

I almost had to do it, it went from 18 months to 12 the latest years, I postponed all I could and when I had to go I had the option for a civil service instead, chose that one and "worked" for the Red Cross.
in reply to ghostdancer

See, at least it stopped you from nicking Bounty bars from the shop. 🤣


Happy Father's Day to everyone, especially those unable or denied time to spend with their children.
#fathersday
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My butcher agrees with me. As a fellow Tory voter, he agrees that the Conservatives are going to lose—and lose big-time. He also agrees that it looks like Farage wants to make sure the Conservatives are so far down the food chain that they no longer pose a threat.

I put my theory to him regarding 2030 and that Farage's current plan is geared towards that, to which he responded: "I hadn't thought of that, you know, you might be right. Everyone is so focused on this election, and he's already said his party, currently, does not have the experience to run the country."

But they might have by 2030!
#politics #ReformUK #opposition

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in reply to Steve

As one paper says today: Cameron destroyed us.

You can literally plot the downward spiral from the point at which he foolishly [arrogantly] held the referendum.

in reply to dick_turpin

we can at least agree on that, but the follow-ups didn't do much to fix it.


And what was I saying the other day about how #Farage is not looking to win, as he knows that's probably impossible? For the first time in British history, we have an individual who is not only looking for second place but could put the #Conservatives in third place! If losing the election wasn't bad enough after holding power for 14 Years, I suspect it is going to take 10 years for the Tories to rebuild a credible party. You said you wanted "A different kind of politics." it looks like you'll get it!
#politics #ReformUK #conservatives
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@neil I see Trump as driven mostly by ego and he's managed to transform the Reps into a fan club.
Farage has changed the Tories without actually taking over (yet). He uses racism and nostalgia for what UK may have been and can't be again. I'm suspicious of his motives and those who back him.
This election could break the Tory party, but they brought it on themselves.
Labour are not being as radical as I would like, but they are fishing for votes from all sides.
Interesting times...
in reply to Steve

We're at a crossroads. Reform UK offers a possibility for change (which in itself is disliked by some who would rather preserve things as they are).

If people don't vote for them, or are dissuaded/pressured not to do so, then it could be an opportunity lost for many more decades to come and we'll be back where we are right now. Except, people will have no cause to complain.

in reply to Neil Darlow :gotosocial: :silverblue: :xmpp:

@neil I see RUK as just a follow on from UKIP and Brexit parties. Our politics does need a shakeup, but they are not the ones to do it. I've wondered if the more moderate Tories would form a new party to regain the centre ground. They must be feeling lost.
in reply to Neil Darlow :gotosocial: :silverblue: :xmpp:

It's a classic situation. People spout off about how they want change, a different kind of politics, and yet never actually tell you what they want. Then, when someone does come along offering a different choice, the very same people who wanted change are all up in arms.

This is the very same mentality as people who say they are dedicated to freedom and then start demanding rules, codes of conduct, and moderators. What they actually want to do is control the narrative, especially people's thoughts. They would be the first to resurrect The Tokubetsu Kōtō Keisatsu (Thought Police.)

in reply to dick_turpin

@neil wanting change does not mean you have to like what is on offer if it's divisive and hateful.

There are other offers from the Liberals and Greens to consider. Don't just go for who shouts loudest.

I know you love to generalise, but there are lots of viewpoints.



The Conservatives seem determined to commit political suicide!

Craig Williams, faces gambling investigation after betting on July election date.

news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak…

A good strategy might be to lock Rishi in his flat because every time he leaves or opens his mouth, he puts his foot in it! "I didn't have Sky when I was a kid." 🤦‍♂️
#politics



Ooh, has Macron made a mistake? With the far right gaining ground across Europe (So it's not just ReformUK then?) Emmanuel Macron is gambling that the majority of the French public are not looking to replace him with Marine Le Pen. who says she's nothing like her father. 🙈
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8009e…
#politics