I had to do some searching to find this. I wonder why it's not more prominent in today's news stories? ๐ค
Employment up by 2% is huge. There are 37.5 Million people of working age in the UK, with 33.09M as of June 2024 now in some form of employment.
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UK unemployment falls slightly as pay growth slows
The UK's unemployment rate fell to 4.2% in the three months to the end of June, figures suggest.Daniel Thomas & Dharshini David (BBC News)
So #labour and Kier Starmer have succeeded in scaring UK ๐ users into silence with 118 prison sentences handed out some of which are related to people making posts on Social Media. In the good old days, you could talk bollocks in a pub nowadays, you'll get two years for making an inaccurate post. ๐ฎโโ๏ธ๐๐
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Government says cells are ready for rioters
The Government has insisted that there will be enough prison cells available for those arrested and held in prison following riots around the UK this month. The disturbances began after the murdersโฆinsidetime & insideinformation
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Hold the phone! The Labour government can suddenly find the capacity to lock up rioters and yet hasn't the room to lock up shoplifters and burglars.
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UK disorder: Keir Starmer says rioters will face 'full force of the law'
The government said it would make more than 500 new prison places available to jail those taking part in the violence.Hafsa Khalil (BBC News)
Oh, here we go! I await someone to respond: "In that case, Burka's should be banned!" ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
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Balaclavas to be banned in Ireland amid anti-immigration demonstrationsts
In response to a wave of disturbances the wearing of masks will be illegal when there is clear โintent to intimidateโJames Crisp (The Telegraph)
There really are some dumb fucks on Social Media. The worst ones are those who think they're intelligent!
"๐๐ง ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ด๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ด๐ช๐ฃ๐ญ๐ฆ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ฅ๐ช๐ด๐จ๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ข๐ค๐ต๐ด, ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ด๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ญ๐ฅ ๐ฃ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ค๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ถ๐ฑ. "
Aren't all our prisons full? Isn't that why Starmer plans to release people early? Where are you going to house all these rioters? Oh, I know, The Bibby Stockholm is available now, isn't it? ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Anyone who does not come via our Customs system is illegal, period. There is no argument or justification anyone can put to me to change my belief in that regard.
Nobody said you said anything? I was hoping you could explain the distinction to me.
I would argue that Starmer's current actions are borderline fascist. He's not ordered water cannons onto the streets. He's not offered some form of arbitration bringing 'community leaders' together; he just appears to have brought out the cosh. Which also seems to be weilded towards only one side of the argument.
Why should I explain something I never proposed? The twitterati seem to spout random opinions.
What are the sides in this argument? People who are attacking the police, torching cars, trying to burn down hotels and other violent acts need to be stopped and deterred. They don't seem interested in arbitration when they turn up with beer and masks.
Do we have water cannons? Johnson bought some that were never used.
I fear someone will be killed. That would be tragic.
This is Labour's classic incompetence. They cancel things like the Bibby Stockholm barge and the Rwanda plan without offering the general public an alternative solution.
Now, there will be those who will say, "That's got nothing to do with it!" But it has everything to do with it. Southport was simply the lancing of the boil that has been building for a good few years now. I'm also uneasy about simply labelling this unrest as "far right." There's massive unhappiness on all sides. The government needs to look at treating the symptoms and not the easiest route of swiftly cutting an arm or leg off, hoping that stops the patient from complaining.
Most civil unrest is started by incidents that bear little relation to the main thrust. The problem these days is that one has to be very careful of what words are used, mainly because people's emotions are on a hair trigger.
I do not disagree with some of what you said; however, I do think a larger portion of the UK than folk are willing to admit are at the end of the road with illegals, and they are illegal if they don't come through customs. People feel marginalised and frankly shat on. I get it when young folk have no job or a chance of getting a council house, let alone a mortgage, and they see videos on ๐ of people in hotels getting three square meals and all the support they need.
I totally agree. This is mindless thuggery, and yes, there may well be elements of right-wing influence, but to believe that's all it is is naive or, at the very least, too simple an answer. I honestly believe the problems run deeper than just simple racism.
No one has a clue what to do with the illegal immigration though - and it's not just UK, most of the media don't point to the same conversations happening all around Europe.
Mistakes have been made on illegal immigration. If you are seeking asylum you don't dump your ID in the channel and come into the UK undocumented.
And, as a new government, you don't just give an amnesty to 90,000 illegal migrants without checking it's safe to do so. I know there must be some hiding in the countryside who dodged Border Force and entered unchallenged.
There is so much going wrong in our country now. A neighbour witnessed Shoplifters from London arriving by train, at our station, emptying supermarket shelves unchallenged and hopping on a train back to London. When train station staff were informed of it they said "Yeah, they've got it down to a fine art" and the police are totally disinterested.
That's what I've been moaning about for months. Our news, especially the BBC, is so biased and geared to only allowing left-wing stories that the British public is unaware European countries have walls of barbed wire and are shipping their illegals to Morroco and Algeria. I suspect an illegal would rather be shipped to Rwanda than Algeria! And yet, the woke brigade managed to successfully sabotage the program through disinformation and shaming.
Wrong on a few fronts there too:
The EDL hasn't been a thing in over 10 years and Tommy Robinson has nothing to do with whatever might be left of it.
The police detained him for the allowed 6 hours permitted by the anti-terror legislation they arrested him under. He was released without charge unconditionally and he went on holiday with his family as he had arranged prior. He didn't leave by secret means and flew out of the country like anyone else.
There is no arrest warrant awaiting him for not attending a fictitious court hearing. This is all a fabrication of the lefty media.
Tommy Robinson leaves UK on eve of court case with arrest warrant issued
The far-right activist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon left the UK by a Eurotunnel train on Sunday night.Dominic Casciani (BBC News)
I heard it was a video he was not allowed to show, which he duly showed yet again (I presume on ๐?) Of course, the key question should be, is this video (which I have not seen) fictitious, or is it that the video would stir up trouble? If it's the latter, I wonder if that's "suppression of freedom of speech"? ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I have no time for Tommy Robinson, but it's a stretch to say he's behind these riots, which I've seen promoted on ๐ throughout today.
My biggest concern about this "court case" is the warrant being issued but the judge saying not to act on it until October so that Robinson my choose to attend voluntarily. Something's off there.
I don't believe that Tommy Robinson is behind these riots. He's spent a lot of time recently reporting inequalities in the law and urging those attending his rallies to behave lawfully and respectfully. It's also worth noting that all demographics of society have been present at those rallies.
Well, that's not good. ๐
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And so the "Nows our chance to get lots of money" begins.
news.sky.com/story/gps-vote-toโฆ
GPs vote to take collective action for first time in 60 years
Family doctors in England have voted overwhelmingly in favour of taking collective action for the first time in 60 years.Sky News
Remember children. You voted this lot in.
Winter fuel payments will now be means tested.
Never mind whose fault it is. Taking money from vulnerable pensioners can't be right?
#Labour
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So a couple of people have said to me, "They've got plenty of money!" (i.e. pensioners) Even the wife said, "Have you seen all the pensioners in Marks & Spencer?"
My response is the same as Jeremy Clarkson's. "So, in other words, you work hard all your life and put some money aside so that your retirement, where you have no other income other than your pension, is slightly more comfortable and along comes a group of people who notice you have a couple of quid and take it off you to give to some workshy layabout. And they call that socialism."
I'm not angry because I already knew this was the kind of thing Labour does and will always do. The Labour Party may well change its outward appearance, but at its core, the only idea they have is to take from one to give to another. Labour's idea of 'growth' is to increase the size of public employees so that:
A. There are more union members.
B. Employment and wage increases are guaranteed.
independent.co.uk/news/world/aโฆ
FBI director casts doubts on Trump being struck by bullet during assassination attempt
Christopher Wray told members of the House Judiciary Committee that he doesnโt know if the bullet โlanded somewhere elseโJames Liddell (The Independent)
#politics #Labour #democracy
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c978m6โฆ
Labour suspends seven rebel MPs over two-child benefit cap
The government comfortably won the vote despite growing pressure from some of its own MPs to scrap the policy.Sam Francis (BBC News)
There's going to be lots of unhappy residents up and down the country.
I can see it now: "Why must they come here? This is not what I voted Labour for! Getting free houses........" ๐คฃ
news.sky.com/story/bibby-stockโฆ
Bibby Stockholm barge to be closed amid Labour asylum overhaul
The vessel was brought into use by the Conservatives to tackle high hotel bills, but the government said it would focus on getting through the backlog of asylum cases instead.Jennifer Scott and Alix Culbertson, political reporters (Sky News)
The solution to this Rental problem is to make it illegal to offer properties for rent that are mortgaged, and only accommodation wholly owned by the landlord can be rented or leased.
This has two effects
1. The landlord is forced to offer reasonable rents because around 90% of the figure will be total profit.
2. Fewer homes will be purchased because tenants will no longer pay the landlord's mortgage, thus increasing the stock of available houses for purchase. In the long term, this will bring house prices down as more choices will be available.
#Renting #Landords #Housing #ukgovernment
'๐ ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ป ยฃ๐ฑ๐ฌ,๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ป'๐ ๐ฎ๐ณ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฑ ๐๐ผ ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ฎ ๐ต๐ผ๐๐๐ฒ'
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7209lโฆ
Renters face affordability block to buying a home
Renters are four times less likely than current owners to be able to afford a home, research suggests.Colletta Smith (BBC News)
Remember, children, you voted this man in. Judging by his behaviour over the last few days I think you might regret it.
members.parliament.uk/member/4โฆ
#politics #anarchy
BBC Weather this morning.
"There is a severe weather warning in place until Saturday"
That'll be just for today, then, won't it? ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
๐ฆ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ๐บ๐ฒ๐ฟ: "We need a quick fix that makes it look like we are 'doing something'
๐ฆ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฏ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฎ: "Tax the rich?"
๐ฆ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ๐บ๐ฒ๐ฟ: "Not yet, we're saving that for when we're really in the shit."
๐ฆ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฏ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฎ: "Build some prisons? We've got plenty of workers flocking across the English channel now."
๐ฆ๐๐ฎ๐ฟ๐บ๐ฒ๐ฟ: "I've got a better idea. Release prisoners early because they can't be that bad, can they? Plus, we can tell everyone how clever we are in reducing overcrowding within the first few days of taking over."
#politics #Labour
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c047dkโฆ
More prisoners to be released early to ease overcrowding
Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer says it was "reckless" to let prisons get so full.Kate Whannel (BBC News)
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If this is true, it's the worst possible outcome for Labour. It will mean even less affordable accommodation if we accept that renting is cheaper than buying a house. These properties will be bought for home ownership, not for renting.
order-order.com/2024/07/09/lanโฆ
Landlords Across Britain Selling Up Ahead of Labour Crackdown On Rental Market โ Guido Fawkes
British landlords are quitting the private rented sector en masse and putting their properties on the market ahead of Labour's first King's Speech. TheRoss Kempsell (Guido Fawkes Organisation)
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It still takes that option off the table. I did a very brief search earlier because another thought crossed my mind. Apparently, the least viable lease you can sell on a property is 40 years in terms of what banks will lend mortgages against. So, I wonder if any Landlords will consider selling leases as an immediate cash injection to use on other projects while (hopefully, if they survive) having a retirement asset to sell off once the lease reverts back to them.
I await the "Equity Release For Landlords" scheme. ๐คฃ
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51y4zโฆ
Voters for French far-right say 'dirty tricks' won election
RN voters tell the BBC they were angered by alliances they say kept their party from power.Ido Vock (BBC News)
news.sky.com/story/new-chancelโฆ
New chancellor Rachel Reeves announces mandatory housing targets 'to get Britain building again' - and lifts onshore wind ban
In her first speech as chancellor, Rachel Reeves has outlined how Labour plan to tackle the need for more homes across the UK.Alix Culbertson (Sky News)
At least you won't be bankrupt like we will in about three years.
Do you think you'll get Trump for a second term? Americans can't possibly elect that senile old fool Biden?
I'm not sure it'll matter at this point. Both sides are starting to sound like they're the IRA and Sinn Fein gearing up for a long conflict akin to The Troubles. That would tear us apart in fairly short order if the Capitol Insurrection was any indication.
It is too early in the day to be so maudlin. I can't deny it is looking pretty bad. On the bright side there is still plenty of countryside for all to visit here in the Americas...
"๐ค๐๐ถ๐ป๐ฐ๐๐ถ๐น๐ถ๐๐ ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐๐, ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐บ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ด๐น๐ฒ๐!"
Poor Margaret must be spinning in her grave. ๐ข
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#politics #GE2024
Margaret Thatcher's old seat of Finchley has been GAINED by Labour - Left Foot Forward: Leading the UK's progressive debate
Labourโs Sarah Sackman took Finchley and Golders Green from the Conservatives, defeating Tory rival Alex Deane who polled 17,276, while Sackman secured 21,857 votesBasit Mahmood (Left Foot Forward: Leading the UK's progressive debate)
My former MP Eddie Hughes, who buggered off to what I presume he thought was a safe seat in Tamworth, is out of a job.
birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlโฆ
Maybe if he had stayed with the Constituency, he might have won because he was well-liked in the town.
#politics #GE2024
Tamworth general election results for 2024
The centre of a parliamentary by-election just last year when former MP Chris Pincher downBirmingham Live
And so, as everyone knew, the Conservatives are barely represented in UK society today, having suffered the worst defeat in British political history. While there will be lots of jubilation for those who voted Labour, I can't help feeling that the biggest factor in their victory was that the Tories handed it to them on a plate, not only with their behaviour but also the arrogance of their belief in the former majority they held and that it wasn't won through any groundbreaking manifesto promises. In my opinion, a large proportion voted Labour to "Get the Tories out". To coin a phrase: "How the mighty have fallen." But as has been pointed out, that's democracy for you, and it proves that "Votes" do count.
Obviously, as a lifelong Tory voter myself, I'm not convinced that Labour is the answer or can address the problems facing us today, but they now have five years and an unbeatable majority to prove myself and my fellow Conservative voters wrong. From my point of view, all I can hope for now is for the Party to overhaul itself and look for By-Election opportunities to start clawing seats back.
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so it turned out even Brexit couldn't heal there internal divisions.
It's just a shame they could not put the country first, rather than their internal problems.
It will be interesting to see when Sunak steps down.
76 people have now taken my UK General Election Quizโฆbut the average score is down to 3/10. Boo!
Can you do better? Help boost the score average and have some fun while waiting for the results to come in!
#UKElection
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UK General Election Quiz
Itโs almost general election time here in the UKโฆso letโs get in the mood to vote with some questions about general elections gone by.JetPunk
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Itโs always the way with Jet Punk quizzesโฆitโs quick fire, either you know it or guess!
Vote share seems to be the thing that confused everyoneโฆbeing a politics nerd itโs what Iโm interested to see about todayโs election. People are saying Starmer could win a landslide on a vote share that is comparable or less than what Corbyn got at last election.
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I find I get like thatโฆitโs even harder with the quizzes that are not multiple choice and you have to type the answer at speed on a phone!
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"HAPPY TREASON DAY."
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#politics #GE2024 #vote #KeepTheFaith
I agree the Iraq war was a warcrime.
Regarding the tories:
We've also had Liz Truss losing 30bn quid in one week because she was criminally reckless and stupid, we had billions of public money stolen by the tories through the PPE and TrackandTrace scandals.
Brexit was driven by the tory right, and the the tory press lied on their behalf.
Thatcher privatised the water industry, which has led inevitably to our rivers and sea being full of shit.
I agree, Truss was not only a massive mistake but a huge disappointment given she was billed as the reincarnation of my hero Maggie.
With regard to PPE, Furlough, and, let's not forget, the Nightingale hospitals at ยฃ60M a pop, it depends on your perspective. While I was stunned at how the government literally handed over cash without any checks or balances, one could argue it was the right thing to do at the time, given everyone was shit scared of dying. Personally, I'd far rather they threw money away rather than clamp down on bureaucracy. What should have happened was for the Royal Commission to look into ALL payments made by the government at that time, with powers to recover funds where appropriate.
I agree with Margaret Thatcher. It is not the government's role to run businesses and provide employment. Where it all falls down is the likes of OFWAT, either not having enough power or not really doing their job properly and sanctioning the arse off, in this case, the water companies.
๐ง๐ต๐ฒ๐ ๐ท๐๐๐ ๐ด๐ฟ๐ถ๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฑ๐ผ๐๐ป.
Wanna know why I'm a moaning caaant? This is why.
A guy has a 2011 PC running W7, but Office won't activate on it. He sends us a second PC he's found and asks us to transfer everything over. The only trouble is that it's that old story: "If it's slung up the back of a cupboard, there's a reason." It's a 2009 PC!
I offer him an i5, 32GB 256 M.2 plus M365; he tries to tell me they have a bunch of M365 licenses and "Can't we use one of those?" after telling him to basically fook off, he then says, "Well, you can have it here in a bit can't you?" I have to explain that; basically, he's wasted the morning, and now our guys are starting lunches, and if he's lucky, he'll have it this afternoon.
Why do people take three weeks to decide and then think they can have it within the hour?
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if your preferred candidate doesn't win you get no representation of your views.
If there is someone with a realistic chance of winning who partially represents your views and you vote for them you may at least get some representation.
And of course if everybody does that the parties that are least worst get in.
Where it falls down even more is it the least worst option crosses some red lines. Then you either vote for something you don't agree with, vote for someone who you know won't get in or stay home.
I can't really blame people for staying home. If a party wants people to vote, then convince them. "Voter apathy" is really blaming the wrong people.
I don't believe in proportional representation; I think that only increases the chance of someone "Getting in" who one didn't vote for. I think it's a problem that's getting worse in everyday life, tbh. There is far too much choice. You should see my arguments around my local fish & chip shop.
"Is that a special?"
"WTF is a special? I just want fish-n-chips."
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Steve
in reply to dick_turpin • • •Your post is inaccurate. There have been no new laws on this since the election. Online safety act is from last year. I wonder who came up with that.
Musk could be guilty of such crimes himself.
dick_turpin
in reply to Steve • •Steve
in reply to dick_turpin • • •Well the courts will act based on existing laws that were not added by this government. How do you think the previous lot would have handled this? Some of them have gone very quiet.
I've not heard of anyone being banged up for chatting down the pub.
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in reply to Steve • •Steve
in reply to dick_turpin • • •dick_turpin
in reply to Steve • •Steve
in reply to dick_turpin • • •you're like a stuck record. It was implied in what you said. How else does a government control what the courts do? I'm waiting for Farage to get charged.
Anyway, things seem to have quietened down a bit now thugs and keyboard warriors are getting banged up. Maybe it works.
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in reply to Steve • •Steve
in reply to dick_turpin • • •We can disagree on who is wrong. We each have our axes to grind and have a global platform these days rather than just who's in the pub. If you put stuff out then expect to have it scrutinised and interpreted in various ways.
I see a lot less now I'm off Twtr. Maybe I should stop following you here. It may be better for my mood.
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in reply to Steve • •I would have said it's a free country, but now that Starmer has told Mark Rowley to go after anyone, be they rioters or people posting on Facebook, it's not as free as it once was.
The laws have been in place since 2012, and while a few convictions have resulted from them over the years, they have not been enforced as severely as they are currently being implemented.
To be clear, every rioter deserves all they get, although I'm not sure a 12-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl deserve the full force of the law. Youthful exuberance springs to mind. What next? Shipment off to a re-education camp?
I'm not overly keen on a custodial sentence for something written on social media. I remember seeing the phrases Ubuntu and Rape being used in a post a few years back. Should the author get 18 Months for that? It seems to me sections of society want to pick and choose. There's a reason Lady Justice has a blindfold: the justice she dispenses is fair and equal to all.
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'How do you think the previous lot would have handled this ?'
Funnily enough, the Tories handled the 2011 riots in exactly the same way (rapid prosecutions). A tactic that Kier Starmer has successfully re-used.
theguardian.com/uk/2012/jul/03โฆ
Rapid riot prosecutions more important than long sentences, says Keir Starmer
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Steve
in reply to andyc • • •andyc
in reply to Steve • • •@steevc @dick_turpin
I think the pertinent point here is why can't they shift, recruit resources and cut the time for asylum claims to reduce the massive waiting list which, in turn, leads to the need to house people on a temporary basis until their claim is ruled on.
Source: instituteforgovernment.org.uk/โฆ
Asylum backlog
Tom Sasse (Institute for Government)andyc
in reply to andyc • • •@steevc @dick_turpin
Sorry - by 'they' I lay the blame at the previous incumbents, not Labour necessarily.
Adam Dalliance
in reply to dick_turpin • • •Mark Meechan was sent to jail for posting on social media in 2018. He make his girlfriends dog do hitler salutes and filmed it for instagram. So we don't really even need the tories most recent round of censorship laws to imprison folks for social media jokes.
The country marches towards authoritarianism whichever party is in power.
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