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Every time the Tories stagger back into the ring, there's yet another smack in the mouth!
#politics #ToryScandal
telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/…

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Remember children. While you were busy making as many posts as possible to "Get the Tories out", you let Farage in!

Don't forget to thank all those who relentlessly slagged the Conservatives off across all the Social Media platforms, including biased journalists, on the 4th of July. You deserve all you get.
#politics #ShortSighted #PoliticalIgnorance

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in reply to dick_turpin

That's probably an exaggeration. It's Labour which will be let in. Reform might make their presence felt but they won't be the leading player.
in reply to Neil Darlow :gotosocial: :silverblue: :xmpp:

I'm convinced (For the minute) ReformUK will be the opposition. That's still "In" in my book.

What needs to be taken into consideration is that parties like the Greens are picking up [tactical] votes. I'm really worried the Tories could be fourth or worse. Some might naively think that's good, but it will be terrible for the UK, in my opinion. This country needs an experienced, established opposition.

in reply to Andy C

@andyc @neil I'd expect the Tories will still be second unless it goes even worse than predicted. Reform might get 3 seats. FPTP means that share of the vote has little impact if it's spread across the country..

Ah well, in 2 weeks we shall find out.

in reply to Andy C

It looks like they will at the minute. Obviously, we've had shocks on polling day before. Just look what happened when Corbyn forced a vote of no confidence, but I have this feeling the "Change" everyone has clamoured for for the past forty-plus years we might actually get.
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in reply to dick_turpin

@neil Sorry - what's your source for this prediction ? If you honestly believe that, get down the bookies now and get £100 on it.

You understand how FPTP works, right ? 14% in the polls is meaningless in terms of seats.

'In its first MRP model of the 2024 general election, Ipsos estimated Labour could win 453 seats and the Conservatives 115, giving Keir Starmer’s party a majority of 256 and inflicting the Tories’ worst ever defeat'.

theguardian.com/politics/artic…

in reply to dick_turpin

You shouldn't underestimate the LibDems. Action Man will be picking-up votes across the board just because of negativity to everyone else.
in reply to Neil Darlow :gotosocial: :silverblue: :xmpp:

@neil Ed Davey has run a very odd campaign. Has he completely lost it or just desperately hoping to show 'he's down with the kids' ? Bloody weird. Hard to take him seriously. Plus he was partially culpable for the PO scandal. And yet bizarrely he seems quite proud of his antics.
in reply to Andy C

Doesn't he remind you of someone else when they were running for London Mayor?


in reply to dick_turpin

Even if the tories come third in vote share, they’ll still not be third in seats. If we had proportional representation, it’d be a different story.

Agree on the need for a solid opposition, and I do worry slightly about what will be left in terms of quality on the opposition bench in the next parliament.

@neil

in reply to Jamie

Exactly!
The attached image is a bit out of date (Labour 406 seats). I saw a projection yesterday that Labour would gain 526 seats. My own view is the Greens are pathetic, LidDem are useless, SNP (Who?) NI, Plaid and the rest of the Heinz 57 lot will never be able to form a viable safety net. Having said that, who knows what will happen on polling day? We've seen the pollsters get it massively wrong before.
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🤣🤣🤣
Watching some of the posts on 𝕏, it just shows how little people actually know about the workings of Parliament. Some posters clearly think our MPs spend every day in the chamber debating. 🤦‍♂️


The hypocrisy of the West
Everyone was up in arms about the Russians conscripting men to fight in Ukraine with soldiers grabbing people off the streets, but when Ukraine does it, that's OK. 🤔
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz994d…
in reply to dick_turpin

I almost had to do it, it went from 18 months to 12 the latest years, I postponed all I could and when I had to go I had the option for a civil service instead, chose that one and "worked" for the Red Cross.
in reply to ghostdancer

See, at least it stopped you from nicking Bounty bars from the shop. 🤣


Happy Father's Day to everyone, especially those unable or denied time to spend with their children.
#fathersday
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My butcher agrees with me. As a fellow Tory voter, he agrees that the Conservatives are going to lose—and lose big-time. He also agrees that it looks like Farage wants to make sure the Conservatives are so far down the food chain that they no longer pose a threat.

I put my theory to him regarding 2030 and that Farage's current plan is geared towards that, to which he responded: "I hadn't thought of that, you know, you might be right. Everyone is so focused on this election, and he's already said his party, currently, does not have the experience to run the country."

But they might have by 2030!
#politics #ReformUK #opposition

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As one paper says today: Cameron destroyed us.

You can literally plot the downward spiral from the point at which he foolishly [arrogantly] held the referendum.

in reply to dick_turpin

we can at least agree on that, but the follow-ups didn't do much to fix it.


And what was I saying the other day about how #Farage is not looking to win, as he knows that's probably impossible? For the first time in British history, we have an individual who is not only looking for second place but could put the #Conservatives in third place! If losing the election wasn't bad enough after holding power for 14 Years, I suspect it is going to take 10 years for the Tories to rebuild a credible party. You said you wanted "A different kind of politics." it looks like you'll get it!
#politics #ReformUK #conservatives
independent.co.uk/news/uk/poli…

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in reply to dick_turpin

@neil I see Trump as driven mostly by ego and he's managed to transform the Reps into a fan club.
Farage has changed the Tories without actually taking over (yet). He uses racism and nostalgia for what UK may have been and can't be again. I'm suspicious of his motives and those who back him.
This election could break the Tory party, but they brought it on themselves.
Labour are not being as radical as I would like, but they are fishing for votes from all sides.
Interesting times...
in reply to Steve

We're at a crossroads. Reform UK offers a possibility for change (which in itself is disliked by some who would rather preserve things as they are).

If people don't vote for them, or are dissuaded/pressured not to do so, then it could be an opportunity lost for many more decades to come and we'll be back where we are right now. Except, people will have no cause to complain.

in reply to Neil Darlow :gotosocial: :silverblue: :xmpp:

@neil I see RUK as just a follow on from UKIP and Brexit parties. Our politics does need a shakeup, but they are not the ones to do it. I've wondered if the more moderate Tories would form a new party to regain the centre ground. They must be feeling lost.
in reply to Neil Darlow :gotosocial: :silverblue: :xmpp:

It's a classic situation. People spout off about how they want change, a different kind of politics, and yet never actually tell you what they want. Then, when someone does come along offering a different choice, the very same people who wanted change are all up in arms.

This is the very same mentality as people who say they are dedicated to freedom and then start demanding rules, codes of conduct, and moderators. What they actually want to do is control the narrative, especially people's thoughts. They would be the first to resurrect The Tokubetsu Kōtō Keisatsu (Thought Police.)

in reply to dick_turpin

@neil wanting change does not mean you have to like what is on offer if it's divisive and hateful.

There are other offers from the Liberals and Greens to consider. Don't just go for who shouts loudest.

I know you love to generalise, but there are lots of viewpoints.



The Conservatives seem determined to commit political suicide!

Craig Williams, faces gambling investigation after betting on July election date.

news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak…

A good strategy might be to lock Rishi in his flat because every time he leaves or opens his mouth, he puts his foot in it! "I didn't have Sky when I was a kid." 🤦‍♂️
#politics

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Ooh, has Macron made a mistake? With the far right gaining ground across Europe (So it's not just ReformUK then?) Emmanuel Macron is gambling that the majority of the French public are not looking to replace him with Marine Le Pen. who says she's nothing like her father. 🙈
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8009e…
#politics

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I thought Rhun ap Iorwerth - Plaid Cymru did pretty good tbh. I felt sorry for Carla Denyer - Green Party. Mishal Husain didn't give her as much leash as the rest of them; in fact, she seemed to cut her short A LOT. Farage was Farage. Daisy Cooper - Liberal Democrats was, hmm? Stephen Flynn - Scottish National Party spent most of his time attacking Labour, which was fun.

The main stars were, of course, Angela Rayner - Labour and Penny Mordaunt - Conservatives. All that was missing between those two was a bit of hair-pulling and a lost shoe. I did notice how, at the end, they were very chatty, in fact, rather friendly. #politics, aye?

Who came out on top? I'm not sure, TBH. Strangely, I thought it was a tie between Rayner and Mordaunt, with Farage a close third.
#generalelection2024

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So, Nigel Farage isn't looking to win; he wants to be the main opposition party.
#bbcdebate #politics #generalelection2024

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I haven't enjoyed the last two days. They have been filled with people complaining that they have to pay for repairs to their computers, stunned that quotes for equipment are more than £3.27, and irritated that they've had to wait more than thirty seconds to be shown how to merge two cells in Excel even though we don't even offer that type of support contract.

"Get into IT." they said: "You'll find it interesting and rewarding, " they said.

Reality is always very different. #HoHum



So this is a good manifesto promise, but let us not forget it was introduced by the Conservatives in 2021, so it's not a Labour idea at all!
#politics #generalelection2024

bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgg2j…

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Treats for me and the missus while we watch the punch-up tonight on the BBC debate. #excited #politics #generalelection2024 #bbcdebate

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I have deliberately chosen non-noisy treats, including the containers. I will dispense that bag of chocolate-coated marshmallows into a bowl. The missus is a bugger for wrappers and bags. Rustle, rustle, bloody rustle. 😉
in reply to dick_turpin

Will someone 'stand up and fight!'? I hope no swords are involved.

youtube.com/watch?v=uHCh_Xdhg8…



You have to be careful about #political claims. Don't just take what you are being told at face value. Labour's claims that Tax has gone up 25 times under the Tories is simply not true.
fullfact.org/economy/labour-pa…
Most of the examples included in their calculations either have nothing to do with government, local Councils set Council Tax rates, or don't affect the average person in the street. I doubt many of us are paying Capital Gains tax.
#generalection2024
in reply to Steve

I didn't say you were. I asked you to say what you are.

See, it's a clever stance to say what one is not habitually; it's designed so that the individual can't be pinned down a bit like those who sit on the fence so that no shit splatters on them while they pass judgment on others.

I have yet to see you say anything positive or negative about Labour, Lib Dems, Greens, etc. I have seen you state unease about RefomUK, but I get the feeling that it's just Farage-related rather than any ReformUK policy offerings. Then again, I could be wrong about that because of your "I'm not" stance. 🤣

in reply to dick_turpin

What real policies do Reform have? They are a one man operation to disrupt the system.
Labour definitely have issues with internal division. They have given up on some of their principles. but so have other parties.
I would probably be most in favour of the Greens on environmental issues, but may differ with them on other matters.
Lib Dems seem like the compromise party, but they lost a lot of trust by going in with the Tories. Maybe they will recover a bit this time.
in reply to Steve

Very few people are party members these days and most will vote in their own interest. It can be hard to see who will deliver on that. FPTP may mean our votes don't really count, so we have to compromise.

I don't feel I have to swear allegiance to any one party, but we can judge the Tories on their record.

I am in favour of a fairer society where everyone gets a fair chance. Nobody should be struggling to feed their kids when we have lots of billionaires and CEOs paid millions.

in reply to Steve

See, again. That's not strictly true. Yes, Farage was associated with them, but he wasn't running the party. I know he is now, and he may well have helped write the manifesto, but I will say from people I've spoken to, including business owners, their policies are striking a cord.

Another knight, aye? 🤣
Don't you think Ed Davey is a bit of loser? Did you see his Party political Broadcast? Walking around his (Affluent) former home neighbourhood.

in reply to dick_turpin

I've not seen any PPBs. There's too much focus on the leaders anyway. I don't care where they came from as it's what they will do that matters.

Farage is a force in his own right with some rich backers who may prefer to stay in the shadows. I don't trust him at all. Do you really believe Brexit was about what you and I would gain?

There's probably policies from every party that I might like, but I could never support anything to do with Farage.


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Wow. She has a time machine and used it to build a cancer center in the past. Such amazing tech and a big heart. She should get a prize. ;-)


Dead excited for Friday's debate:
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c877v0…
@PennyMordaunt is going to rip @AngelaRayner a new one! 🤣
#politics #GeneralElection2024
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in reply to dick_turpin

Literally every other person on the stage will have more interesting things to say and more useful and radical ideas than either of those two dead-end status-quo parties.
in reply to Adam Dalliance

Na, it's gonna be fun. More interesting than the Starmer vs Sunak bluster.
in reply to dick_turpin

Way more interesting, indeed, because it'll have more than those two almost identical voices.


Oh, it's going to be one of those days, is it?

It is one of those days where you give people clear instructions, and yet they forge ahead with what they think, having clearly disregarded everything you've said to them.

I asked Admin to put some details on SAGE as I have a deal I'm hoping to close this morning for five Laptops: "Do us a favour, put it on the system, but don't send it because I haven't had the go-ahead yet. When I have then, send it, and once they've paid, I'll release the goods."

Just had an email from Admin: "Invoiced."
🤦‍♂️

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Never mind "Fake News" or that Social Media has algorithms geared to subvert your choices or that AI can write fake stories. The BBC managed to fill the audience with Labour voters and Conservative haters for last night's debate, and just so that, I presume, Labour voting Socialist program producers at the Beeb can hammer home the message through the BBC News all they've shown is Rishi Sunak being put on the spot. Nothing about Kier Starmer squirming. So, not biased at all, aye, BBC?
#politics #ElectionDebate #generalection2024 #TVLicense
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in reply to dick_turpin

Again, I fear you are right. Whatever happens, Farage is going to do a lot of damage to ALL parties. I can't see him winning, but his siphoning off of votes is going to do nobody any good, as it will weaken whoever wins a majority.
in reply to dick_turpin

Farage says he wants to take over the Tory party. Is that what people like you want? The party has leant his way to try and keep some supporters, but that must alienate others. It's not just Labour that's divided.
in reply to dick_turpin

He wants to destroy the Tory Party, not take it over. His style of politics is too far right for my liking, and as for his Net Zero on immigration, the man's a moron because Social Healthcare would collapse overnight, let alone devastate the NHS.

See, I blame the BBC et al. If they reported properly, the public would know that legal immigrants are being made to perform community care work if they want to extend their visas unless their employer is willing to sponsor them. If the British public knew that, they wouldn't be so anti [legal] immigrants.

in reply to dick_turpin

were you replying to me? Your threading is broken.
I can agree that Farage is wrong, but he's also cunning. He's broken the Tories, but not quite as much as Trump broke the Republicans, yet.
in reply to Steve

I forgot to reply to you and just wrote a reply. There's nothing broken about me. 😇
in reply to dick_turpin

Well that is one thing he and I have in common, I too would like to destroy the conservative party and definitely not have Farage take it over.

He has a very limited understanding of economics and seems to view people as a burden on an economy rather than the source of it's wealth, and so he blames too-many-people for all the problems caused by inequality and lack of government investment or controls on the ultra wealthy.

High house prices? Can't be landlord collusion, currency inflation, and failure to tax the ultra rich so they bid up house prices. Must be too many migrants, it's the poorest people who are somehow bidding up the house prices.

Poor health service? Can't be underinvestment by an austerity-crazed government, must be too many migrants using it even though they are literally half the staff.

Traffic jams? Must be too many migrants on the roads, not poor traffic planning and lack of public transport options. Migrants are the rich ones that can afford cars in his mind.

Poor schools? Oh, it's because they're full of migrants who don't speak english, not because of virtual privatization though accademisation removing all local accountability and then austerity-crazed under-investment while top management bleed them of money.

His hatred knows no bounds and his fears fill in the same answer to every question.

I really hope he loses and also ruins it for the conservative candidate and people end up with a green or something.

in reply to Adam Dalliance

The Greens will never have any more power than local government.

Never mind "Taxing the rich"; we need more people to pay taxes! I wonder what socialists will do when there are no longer any rich people in the UK to squeeze? We need to create jobs and get more people back to work. See I don't mind legal immigrants; they'll work hard and pay taxes. It's the illegal and boat people that we need France to stop, but of course, they never will because the French are happy for the problem to leave their shores.

I agree with you regarding underfunding for the NHS, but only in terms of capacity and not wages, etc. We need more beds, and that doesn't necessarily mean more hospitals.

As I said to someone the other day, Farage's statements generally have an underlying truth. The NHS was created to cater for 40 million, and we currently stand at 70 million and rising, so an influx of hundreds of thousands is going to have an effect; there's no getting away from that.

Our education system was not only created for a smaller population but made worse by eradicating as many grammar schools as possible, thus reducing capacity, making ridiculous situations of classes in some areas of fifty pupils to one teacher.

In both education and the NHS, nobody wants to do the job; it's not about money; you could offer £1000 a week, and you'd still struggle to employ people willing to clean up vomit or watch someone die of cancer. There are currently one hundred and forty-four thousand vacancies in the NHS. Most pay decent wages, yet nobody in the UK wants the jobs.

I take it you know I'm a Conservative?
At least I'm willing to plant my flag in the ground, unlike some I know. 😄

in reply to dick_turpin

When there are no longer any rich people to squeeze will will have completed the project of reclaiming the country's assets for the masses I suppose.

Stopping people risking their lives in dangerous channel crossing, and stopping the people smugglers is easy: Just offer safe passage.

80 of asylum seekers are successful and if processed efficiently could quickly be put to work, the other 20 you'd know where they came from and where they are.

An influx of hundred of thousands of them will indeed have an effect on the NHS, filling many of those vacancies ideally. Refugees are often skilled.

We have made being a doctor or nurse in England twice as badly paid working twice the hours of one in Australia. Fair pay absolutely would help with recruitment.

My flag is indeed in the green party, who would be very lucky indeed to come between those titans to take that constituency. We'll be lucky to get two, because our election system doesn't only rule out Nige, it rules out all small parties. It's a two-party fit-up.

in reply to Adam Dalliance

It's dangerous to compare wages to other countries. My parents moved to the Midlands long before I did; I came up on a visit once and, just for giggles, checked out the rental prices: "Wow! Rents are cheap up here, mum." When I got back to Buckinghamshire, where I was living at the time, I made plans to move North. I soon found out why rents were cheap; the wages were diabolical. 🤣

I'll never agree to illegal immigration, no matter what the circumstances.

Oh god, don't tell me to want PR? 🤦

in reply to dick_turpin

I won't tell you what to want, but Green Party policy is for Proportional Representation.

I'd go further myself. I don't see why I should have to wait until an election to change my democratic representation. I should be able to call up and change my representative as easily as I can change my phone company.

Keep 'em on their toes. Ensure all people actually have a representative rather than two thirds of people being served by people they didn't vote for.

in reply to Adam Dalliance

LOL
I can beat that. I'd like us to go back to the medieval "Hundreds" system, but also 100 dwellings that elect a representative for said Hundred, who in turn select a representative for the county. That way you'd be truly represented otherwise you'd nip round to number 87 and put your representatives windows through. 🤣


Looks like the GAME shops are on their way out?

GAME REWARD and GAME ELITE shall be closing on 31 JULY 2024

As of 31 July 2024 (“Closure Date”) the GAME ‘Reward’ Programme (“GAME Reward”) and the GAME Elite Membership Scheme shall come to an end, after which GAME Reward and GAME Elite members will no longer be able to earn GAME Reward points on purchases made in GAME stores or online at game.co.uk or redeem any GAME Reward or GAME Elite points

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𝗡𝗲𝗶𝗴𝗵𝗯𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗹!
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#Hive
#Hive


I knew feathers would be ruffled on 𝕏 today with the Tory's Biological gender law proposal. It'll put a stop to any ambiguity, at any rate. A bit more 'clear definition' on a range of subjects would help this country out a lot.
in reply to Steve

The number of gender reassignment surgery is very small.
in reply to dick_turpin

I expect assaults by trans people are tiny too. It's all about headlines



𝗦𝘁𝗮𝗿𝗺𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗻 𝗔𝗯𝗯𝗼𝘁𝘁: ‘𝗜’𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗴𝗼𝘁 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗗𝗶𝗮𝗻𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗻 𝘀𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗮𝗯𝗹𝘆 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗲𝘀’

I'll just decode that for you: "Damn! She's got more support than I realised!"

theguardian.com/politics/artic…
#politics #generalection2024



For the love of The Pond Gods! Is that the best she can think of saying?

A better comment would be: "Phew! Now the rozzers are leaving me alone I'm allowed back on the bus."
#politics #labour #generalection2024

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I'd wet myself if that bus ended up on a relative's drive, just like someone else's campaign bus. 🤣🚍


It's not what people write on 𝕏 that annoys me; it's the fact that people read what some deluded people have written on 𝕏 that gets my back up!

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It's only taken 38 years, but it would seem Yes Prime Minister was on to something.
Cancel Trident and introduce conscription.
#politics #generalelection2024
youtube.com/watch?v=qVO85anasr…
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Every General Election, #Labour trots out the same old crutch, the #nhs
He's clearly forgotten how Labour not only retained privatisation during their last government but is also looking to outsource even more NHS services if his party wins! It's a myth that only Labour can save the NHS.
#Politics #generalelection2024

bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3gg74…

in reply to Adam Dalliance

The major problem is nobody is willing to say anything harsh about the NHS; it's always the government's fault. I did seven years with the NHS, and my daughter is a sister within the service, so I do have a bit of an insight as to what goes on internally. To be fair to everyone, it's actually a job that very few people want to do. I think if they offered £1000 a week, they'd still struggle to retain staff. This is why the government is now forcing visa applicants to do so many hours of community nursing if they want to stay in the UK.
in reply to dick_turpin

Making the jobs private won't make them better. Quite the reverse in my experience, but the health-service jobs are indeed not jobs I'd want to do even with ten times the money and half the hours, whether private or public.

Maybe we think the plan is to make the nurses shareholders and give them stock options? 😆




They'll be calling @RishiSunak the comeback kid at this rate!
telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/…
#politics #generalelection2024
in reply to dick_turpin

I love the fact today's policy is 'Get rid of all these shit courses like Media Studies' as he continues to target the senior, Tory, blue rinse demographic.
in reply to dick_turpin

The problem is, there are lots of shit courses that school leavers go on that lead to nothing. Having said that, my experience and a good few other businesses that I deal with is that school leavers don't want to work; they want to be influencers or reality performers.

With regards to the blue rinse brigade, there are far more of them than young folk. That's what happens when the birthrate declines year in year out. Have you seen who the vast majority of Reform UK supporters are? The Blue Rinse Brigade. 🤣



It's a shame #Labour won't let Dianne Abbot stand as a candidate. She's such a brilliant advertisement for the #Conservatives. Who wouldn't want someone in control who doesn't know what shoe goes on what foot?

See, I told you Labour doesn't know what it's doing. 😉



I can't believe I'm about to defend Kier Starmer! 🙈

So what?
Does being part of the Labour movement mean you must dress in clothes purchased from a supermarket?
thesun.co.uk/news/28179280/kei…
#politics

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Being a tight bastard, I really don't understand how someone spend that much on something so simple.
in reply to penguin42

Better not tell you how much I sometimes spend on clothes then? 🙊


I don't have a real interest in #football, but I know many people do. From what I see, football teams engender fierce loyalty even when that team is not doing so well. It seems we need a bit more loyalty with the #generalelection2024. Yes, my team, the #Conservatives, have scored a lot of home goals this season, but I honestly feel they can take us through to the finals next season. ☑️ 🗳️ #politics

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do you mean own goals? Your team sacked all their good players and brought in some dim thugs who play dirty. They spend more time fighting each other than caring about the fans. The manager had no control over them. They will get relegated.
in reply to Steve

Two weeks ago, I would have agreed with you. Today, I'm more confident. If there was ever proof of the statement, "A week is a long time in politics," the latest events have demonstrated it to be true.
in reply to dick_turpin

Yeah and Rayner was cleared despite campaigning by Tories who wasted more police time. They cannot undo the failures of 14 years in a few weeks. Sunak is still herding cats. How many more will just step down rather than lose.
in reply to Steve

Is "No further action." being cleared? How many times have the rozzers let people go, only for it to all blow up in their faces?

The Tories are not looking to "Undo" anything; they're looking to secure another five years. Given that the latest poll puts them 12 points behind with another four weeks to go, I think there's every chance of a return to government. Remember, everyone thought staying in the EU was a forgone conclusion, and look at how wrong all those convinced people were. Look at that vote of no confidence; the Tories returned with an even greater majority.

Fortunately, there are a lot of people who are not quite yet in the blue rinse brigade who remember how bad labour was; I'm confident they don't want to see Starmer and his band of incompetents in power.

What started as looking like a slam dunk has now turned into an "It's all to play for." \o/

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in reply to Steve

@steevc Hey. Remember we are actually living in 1966. We have control of our borders, rationing has ended and Ing-Er-Land have just lifted the World Cup!


You've gotta love the 𝗦𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗸 𝘂𝗽 𝗕𝗼𝘆𝘀 @Stickupmusic I see them working really hard on #Hive supporting people.
#Hive


Another Hot Air story from the press desperate to promote their left-wing views.
news.sky.com/story/more-than-1…
120 business. Have you seen who these 120 are? A chef, former 'FORMER' banker. Who the hell is ATOM Bank? I doubt anyone marginal seat has heard of ATOM Bank?

I wonder what ASLEF and the TUC think about Labour cosying up to businesses? Dosen't that fly in the face of what Labour stands for?
#politics #generalelection2024

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"There's a sandwich bar come cafe...."

"along with being : in addition to
worked as cook-cum-dishwasher"

merriam-webster.com/dictionary…

so you want to write:
There's a sandwich bar-cum- cafe...



The UK population in mid-year 2022 was estimated to be 67.6 million, with approximately 54.38 million people eligible to vote. As of mid-2022, there are approximately 21 million people aged 50 and over in the UK, which leaves 33.38M.

In the last General Election, held on December 12, 2019, the Labour Party received 10,269,051 votes. Even if we say that figure could be doubled for the coming GE, 20,538,102, that still leaves over 12M votes for the 50+ age group. Of course, not everyone votes, and yes, there are all the other parties plus idiots who'll "Spoil their papers" or just not vote, but 12M is a lot of influence.

This election is going to be interesting. The Tories are predominantly targeting the 50+ age range, while Labour seems to be appealing to the young first-time voters.

Bringing back National Service is going to be very popular with the 50+ voter especially the Community Work element for those who refuse. This is already happening for people looking to stay in the UK, with work visa applicants who are looking to extend their 12-month work visa being made to do X amount of hours 'Carer' work as a pre-requisite to extension or find an employer willing to sponsor them.

Oh, and as a side benefit, it'll slash unemployment. That's nice. 🙂

news.sky.com/story/sunak-says-…
#politics #NationalService #CommunityService

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Yep, it's pretty clever; it'll appeal to a wide range of people, not just old farts, and if it's presented in the right way, as it appears to be, people will lap it up:

"Don't worry; little Johnny won't have to fight in the front line; he can learn how to kill people with drones from the safety of Mildenhall."

"Knife crime? What knife crime? They're off the streets and in the base learning how to shoot people!"

"We've slashed unemployment! Plus, there are more jobs for middle-aged to more senior people now that all the youth have been removed from the job market. Plus, there's an unforeseen bonus: all these National Service youth will be fully trained and able to read and write when they hit the job market after leaving the forces and not head straight for the dole queue."

Fook me! I should apply to do Tory marketing. 🤣

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I think Sunak has miscalculated here. The grey voters may lap this up (I personally won't) but the young voters will vote Labour because they don't like the idea of this.

Upon hearing of this, my 21 year old son said "Well, he's royally f*cked his chances there!".

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And that's the thing. The only ones it will affect are currently 14!!! And that's assuming the Tories can implement it within four years. Current 16-year-olds that Labour is chasing with their "We're going to lower the voting age." won't be affected; hell, they'll probably be 18 or 19 by the time Labour gets their insane idea implemented.

Think about it: Labour is going to give the vote to people who cannot buy alcohol, cigarettes or vapes. They cannot marry without parent's consent. The age for Homosexual consent is 18. The list just goes on and on, and yet Labour wants them to make the important decision as to who should run the country. There is only one reason why this is in the Labour policy, and that is to scrape extra votes from a class that has not even started to gain life experience.



And they're off!
So the two-horse race for the #generalelection2024 has started and already Rishi Sunak has made two mistakes. I have to agree with @peston's first prediction of a November election this would have given more time for interest rates to come down along with fuel and food. There would have been more time for more than just one person to enjoy the scenery of Rwanda. Secondly, why didn't he wait for 8 or 9 am this morning when there was less chance of looking like the gods were pissing all over him. #politics

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Not just the money, he's also given away a lot of our military assets to Ukraine without any plan to replace them other than Shapps saying "Our forces will have to think on their feet and learn to adapt to situations!". Political-speak for "Sorry, we've shafted you, you're on your own!".
in reply to Neil Darlow :gotosocial: :silverblue: :xmpp:

Yep, I can't argue with that. Still, at least we've still got Green Goddesses in storage to pick up the pieces.