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Ah, #Labour making sure they win the next General Election by giving school kids the right to vote. 🤦‍♂️

"In the UK, the school leaving age is the last Friday in June of the school year in which a student turns 16. However, young people are required to participate in some form of education or training until they are 18. This can include staying in full-time education at a college, starting an apprenticeship, or undertaking a traineeship."

theguardian.com/politics/2025/…

in reply to dick_turpin

I'd like to have seen a provisional system first, in which kids voted and the results were published.
in reply to Andy Wootton

I'm going to go full-on Surrey Set.
1. They've never paid any taxes (In a lot of cases, never paid for anything).
2. Never owned/rented a property.
3. Not run a car.
4. Not paid any council tax.
5. Not had any life experiences. (Although that's not strictly true, at least half of them will be parents at 16)

The list is endless, so I cannot see how 16-year-olds can decide what the country should have for the next five years. I would argue their choice would be made on who their mates vote for, rather than any policy promises.

in reply to dick_turpin

They can get married, have sex and volunteer to die for their country though. They have recent experience of schools and training opportunities, which I don't. Isn't voting mostly inherited? :-)

There was something about youth clubs on R4 yesterday. The BBC guy said "to most of us that sounds like a building with table-tennis, pool and pinball machines" and I thought "What else would it be?". They had opinions. MPs need to care about what they want and why should they atm?

in reply to Andy Wootton

You remind me of that Young Ones comedy sketch about buying a pint. I can solve that in one foul swoop. Raise the ages of anything to 18. Problem solved.

Of course, no government will do that because they love teenage pregnancies. It's a fairly good chance that pregnant girls at 16 (or lower) are likely to go on to have more kids, thus potentially increasing the taxable population. This is why birth rates are a crucial topic.

I didn't think youth clubs existed anymore? I thought it was, because insurance was next to impossible to afford and the cost of security. They've just converted what was the local youth club into a smart community hub where you can get tea and biscuits and play bingo. Just the sort of place 12-year-olds want to go, if they were allowed in.