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Never mind all these schemes for loft and cavity wall installation most of which are a scam anyway. The government should pay for every house in the UK to have solar panels fitted and make it law that new builds must have solar panel roofs. They never will because the energy industry will resist it as it will eat into their profits.

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ghostdancer
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Spain should be producing solar energy like there was no other option but government some years ago made a law that made it difficult to small and individual producers so all control is in hands of big companies which don't want for that same reason. Europe should have learned that lesson during the first energy crisis in the seventies but you know who runs the show.
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Shredni Vashtar
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Last night, the wife watched the news: "So do we not have any Nuclear Power stations then, Bubb?" I replied that we have a few, but forty years ago, they decided to decommission most of them. Now we're looking to build some! Personally, while they are fecking dangerous, I see no other option unless we want every spare square of land hosting a fooking wind turbine.
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ghostdancer
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Nuclear are pretty safe, when they have a problem is a big disaster, but they don't do CO2 which is really good. And for the wind turbines they can be put on the sea. We just need to invest on those technologies and we have lost 40 years IMHO. Right now I think we need the nuclear, though I don't like it much. @tpheine
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Shredni Vashtar
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Have you seen the size of these wind farms though? It tells me they're not an efficient solution if they have to be so vast.
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Thomas
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I don't agree on the Nuclear thing. It's the most expensive way of energy generating if you consider the cost of waste storage.

However, I believe if we work together around the world we could solve it with renewable energy (wind, water, solar)...and of course with a strict recycling/repair/sustainability policy.

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ghostdancer
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Agree but till we can get all our energy from renewable we need to produce energy with the les CO2 we can, when we get it we use the nuclear for space missions only. And a big yes to the recycling/repair/sustainability policy, really strict. o@srednivashtar@castlecannon.house
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Thomas
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Are you sure we are so far away from this goal? This week in German News we had a law passed by the gov that we want to increase our 40% actual coverage to 80% until 2030, without the private households, which maybe could add up to 100%.

Official gov source with figures from 2021 (unfortunately in German, but the numbers and pics are self explaining)

umweltbundesamt.de/themen/klim…


Erneuerbare Energien in Zahlen

Aktuelle und qualitätsgesicherte Daten zur Entwicklung der erneuerbaren Energien in Deutschland sind ein wichtiger Baustein zur Bewertung der Energiewende.
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ghostdancer
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From what I've read the biggest problem is storage. How to keep it for when you need it.
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Thomas
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I agree. But, you know, we had (right, past ) solutions for this issue: in Dresden we had a 120MW pumped storage power plant since 1930, with a storage capacity of 560-590 MWh.

So all I am saying is, that we had and still have solutions for storage, but capitalism keeps us away from it.

Sorry, again in German:
de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpsp…

And the general article:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped…

hydroelectric energy storage station using two water reservoirs connected with a pump and a turbine

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ghostdancer
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And the same groups of power have stopped/slowed the development of better technology cause it's cheaper and more profitable for them to maintain the status quo.
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elmussol
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Nuclear energy is based on monumental hubris. It is premised on the fact that we can deal with its dangerous byproducts for, at the very minimum, longer than humans have been doing agriculture.

Case in point: the UK has lost ALL the records of where it buried its first ten years' worth of nuclear waste.

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ghostdancer
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They're probably under the sea, I still remember when barrels were thrown in the Atlantic.
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Shredni Vashtar
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Na, we're going to Mars. The Moon is a dead planet anyways. A bit of Radioactivity might liven it up?
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