It's so depressing seeing people posting with glee at the Conservative's potential demise when they themselves have never lived under a Labour government or are too young to remember the last one. You have no idea. #politics #GE2024 #vote
He regretted that little joke theguardian.com/commentisfree/… Young people know all too well what it's like living under the Tories. They went quiet about the national service thing.
The tories had 15 years to make things better, and they made things worse, for most people anyway. They did this to themselves, through corruption and greed.
We've had Brexit and COVID, all of which have had a massive impact on finances, but more importantly, it will take at least another five years to recover from those events. It's too easy to say the Tories are all simply <Insert insult of choice>.
I agree they've done some pretty awful things in terms of behaviour, and Cameron should never have even considered a referendum, but you can't blame the Tories for that. You have to blame the voter even if people think the public was lied to. The public voted out, and the [Tory] government carried out the electorate's wishes.
Mind you, Labour isn't averse to lying. I take it we still haven't found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? 😉
Regarding the tories: We've also had Liz Truss losing 30bn quid in one week because she was criminally reckless and stupid, we had billions of public money stolen by the tories through the PPE and TrackandTrace scandals. Brexit was driven by the tory right, and the the tory press lied on their behalf. Thatcher privatised the water industry, which has led inevitably to our rivers and sea being full of shit.
I agree, Truss was not only a massive mistake but a huge disappointment given she was billed as the reincarnation of my hero Maggie.
With regard to PPE, Furlough, and, let's not forget, the Nightingale hospitals at £60M a pop, it depends on your perspective. While I was stunned at how the government literally handed over cash without any checks or balances, one could argue it was the right thing to do at the time, given everyone was shit scared of dying. Personally, I'd far rather they threw money away rather than clamp down on bureaucracy. What should have happened was for the Royal Commission to look into ALL payments made by the government at that time, with powers to recover funds where appropriate.
I agree with Margaret Thatcher. It is not the government's role to run businesses and provide employment. Where it all falls down is the likes of OFWAT, either not having enough power or not really doing their job properly and sanctioning the arse off, in this case, the water companies.
Steve
in reply to dick_turpin • • •Young people know all too well what it's like living under the Tories. They went quiet about the national service thing.
‘I’m afraid there is no money.’ The letter I will regret for ever
Liam Byrne (The Guardian)dick_turpin likes this.
Captain Jack Sparrow
in reply to dick_turpin • • •They did this to themselves, through corruption and greed.
Wiredfire
in reply to Captain Jack Sparrow • • •@Captain_Jack_Sparrow I also recall living under Labour and Tories.
They’re both shits but Tories are by quite some margin the shitter shits.
dick_turpin
in reply to Wiredfire • •We've had Brexit and COVID, all of which have had a massive impact on finances, but more importantly, it will take at least another five years to recover from those events. It's too easy to say the Tories are all simply <Insert insult of choice>.
I agree they've done some pretty awful things in terms of behaviour, and Cameron should never have even considered a referendum, but you can't blame the Tories for that. You have to blame the voter even if people think the public was lied to. The public voted out, and the [Tory] government carried out the electorate's wishes.
Mind you, Labour isn't averse to lying. I take it we still haven't found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? 😉
Captain Jack Sparrow
in reply to dick_turpin • • •@wiredfire
I agree the Iraq war was a warcrime.
Regarding the tories:
We've also had Liz Truss losing 30bn quid in one week because she was criminally reckless and stupid, we had billions of public money stolen by the tories through the PPE and TrackandTrace scandals.
Brexit was driven by the tory right, and the the tory press lied on their behalf.
Thatcher privatised the water industry, which has led inevitably to our rivers and sea being full of shit.
dick_turpin
in reply to Captain Jack Sparrow • •I agree, Truss was not only a massive mistake but a huge disappointment given she was billed as the reincarnation of my hero Maggie.
With regard to PPE, Furlough, and, let's not forget, the Nightingale hospitals at £60M a pop, it depends on your perspective. While I was stunned at how the government literally handed over cash without any checks or balances, one could argue it was the right thing to do at the time, given everyone was shit scared of dying. Personally, I'd far rather they threw money away rather than clamp down on bureaucracy. What should have happened was for the Royal Commission to look into ALL payments made by the government at that time, with powers to recover funds where appropriate.
I agree with Margaret Thatcher. It is not the government's role to run businesses and provide employment. Where it all falls down is the likes of OFWAT, either not having enough power or not really doing their job properly and sanctioning the arse off, in this case, the water companies.